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Let's address the elephant in the room. Zion has broken his weight clause multiple times.

Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted by ZForMVPFromThe313
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:51 pm
EASILY over 315 right now and I believe those pics at the camp were just the angles. His fadeaway jumper against the Chinese dudes during the trip there he looked out of shape. That was only days after the summer camp event with the kids.

Either he has the most massive weight fluctuation ever or he was not in shape and those camera angles covered it up.

We all are aware of this, but why?

Do y'all think dude just doesn't want to be here and wants the weight issue to be the cause? Basically, is he using that to turn the franchise against him and move him, or is he just incapable of getting under 300lbs at this point?

285 Zion was literally lean and all muscle. A side by side comparison to the actual 285 frame, next to the 2022 media day frame (great shape, still probably 300) to his best shape of last year which was still bigger than 2022 and around 305-308. Right now, dude is over 315 easily.

You can literally see 30lbs of more weight if side by side with his Duke frame. It's ridiculous. Nobody can actually think they are "better" at that weight right?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:53 pm to
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or he was not in shape and those camera angles covered it up.



It's always been this or fans trying to convince themselves that he is skinnier than he is because his street clothes are baggier than a basketball jersey.

Dude has largely, no pun intended, looked the same for the last 3 seasons.

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Do y'all think dude just doesn't want to be here and wants the weight issue to be the cause? Basically, is he using that to turn the franchise against him and move him, or is he just incapable of getting under 300lbs at this point?


I don't think it's that sinister. I just think it's the product of a sheltered kid who was told from his sophomore year in high school that he was going to make it to the NBA on natural talent, so he never really matured.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5406 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:55 pm to
This, dude grew a beard and wore baggy clothing to fool y’all lol. He’s no way near Mountain Dew Zion but also not close to duke Zion. Duke Zion is long gone and may never be seen again
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:00 pm to
If he stays healthy, he will play himself into shape around game 30, don’t worry fellas
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:04 pm to
He needs to get with Harden's Ozempic dealer
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Do y'all think dude just doesn't want to be here and wants the weight issue to be the cause? Basically, is he using that to turn the franchise against him and move him, or is he just incapable of getting under 300lbs at this point?



I don't think so. I don't think he cares where he plays. Frankly, I don't think he cares that much at all about basketball. He certainly doesn't love it. At this point, it's a means to an ends for him.
Posted by ZForMVPFromThe313
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:05 pm to
Man it is sinister imo, if not towards the NBA then it's sinister towards his fans.

He was the most exciting player I've ever watched at a college level and it's not close. He has been a great and fun to watch in the NBA as a slasher like my favorite view, prime Wade. But he doesn't dunk on people like I expected (because he's too damn heavy) his defense is definitely nowhere near as fun to watch as Wade, but his handle has been better than I expected from college.

As a fan, I just wanted a few years of Duke Zion smh
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Man it is sinister imo, if not towards the NBA then it's sinister towards his fans.



The result is sinister... I don't think the intentions are.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:22 pm to
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It's always been this or fans trying to convince themselves that he is skinnier than he is because his street clothes are baggier than a basketball jersey.

My work in this thread was strong to quite strong: "I'm out for straight vengeance"-Zion



Didn't even argue that Zion would NOT show up in shape game 1. Just argued that let's wait and let him prove it. But to your point, fans will go out of their way to convince themselves no matter what, no matter how many times....we'll do it again next offseason, guaranteed.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130294 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:23 pm to
Damn I did work in that thread
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:27 pm to
Yeah, my 2 posts were pretty measured there. I was taking the glass half full approach, fully aware that the cup was at no risk of overflowething.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130294 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:28 pm to
My approach with Zion now is always "show me"

I've seen enough bullshite talk

And he has shown us
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:29 pm to
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I've seen enough bullshite talk



We really need a "shite Zion Said" thread.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:34 pm to
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Damn I did work in that thread

Just went back to read your posts in that thread, only had to read the first post to know you had the right mindset...

The entire post was "cool, let's see it'

That's it, nailed it.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81353 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:48 pm to
I'm lowkey pissed at myself in that thread for at least sniffing the bait that was a Zion offseason pick.

The thinner neck had me fooled unlike in past years when I thought people were taking crazy pills when they said he looked skinnier.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130294 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:49 pm to
To be fair I thought he was looking good all offseason in what we saw too.

We were fooled. It was all bullshite
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27586 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:01 pm to
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thought he was looking good all offseason in what we saw too.

We were fooled. It was all bullshite


Idk man. He does look thinner to start this season. Something just seems off with him. I think it's more effort at this point, which is almost worst.

We've seen him be effective for 2 quarters out of a possible 8. And I'm not trying to sunshine pump, but something tells me he goes off tonight.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Idk man. He does look thinner to start this season.
The problem is grading on the Zion curve.

He's never come into a season in shape, so coming in looking a bit better than before isn't the same as Zion coming in in peak condition.


shite, his stepdad said game 1 he'd be skinnier than he was at Duke, correct? Well, yea...about that...
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30352 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:05 pm to
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Something just seems off with him. I think it's more effort at this point, which is almost worst.

We've seen him be effective for 2 quarters out of a possible 8.


i agree. That second half in the first Portland game he was engaged at both ends of the floor and you saw him actually hustling at times.

I think, and hope, he goes off tonight. I'm hoping he's been eviscerated by his shitty play in the last game and has somethign to prove tonight.




Just got an email from the Pels for "gameday" with this picture. You think it's unedited?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:16 pm to
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He's never come into a season in shape, so coming in looking a bit better than before isn't the same as Zion coming in in peak condition.


shite, his stepdad said game 1 he'd be skinnier than he was at Duke, correct? Well, yea...about that...


Yeah that's what I'm saying. He's not in peak shape but he's pretty close to the shape he was in at the end of last season, and he was killing motherfrickers all day
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