re: Josh Hart- Sources say he would reportedly like a fresh start

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Has anybody checked in on touchdownjeebus and whatiknowsofar? They might be on suicide alert.

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I'm ok. I don't want to lose Josh Hart at all. The fire he brings to the court and the passion he has for his teammates and wanting to succeed are contagious intangible things that are worth paying.

I still don't really see a way that we lose him unless we make some mega deal for a 3rd star that makes him a cap casualty. Naji is great but I've always viewed Josh as a backup sg instead of a forward. They don't really play the same role imo even though they both do the same things.


Couple all of that with Josh being a rfa and I don't see us losing him unless it's a ridiculous overpay, in which case congrats man get paid. My Fandom is slowly being outweighed by my rational side now that we're further removed from our season ending.

Stan plays 8, maybe 9 guys. Assuming they bring in a good shooter like Buddy or Duncan Robinson and they either keep Lonzo or upgrade Bledsoe, One of Hart/Naji is at the end of the 9 man rotation.

1) Zion
2) Ingram
3) Bledsoe trade/Lonzo
4) NAW
5) Adams (if he's still here)
6) Naji
7) Hayes
8) Shooter
9) Hart

Unless you think Hart is significantly better than Naji, like if he fixes his 3 point shot this summer, you'd be paying Hart MLE money to fill a vet minimum role. I'm as big of a fan of Hart as anyone else here because of the way he plays. But I also wonder if he'd become a malcontent if he wasn't getting minutes and didn't have a better role on the team than back of the rotation.

I just looked at Naji's stats and his 3 point shooting is worse than I remembered. He ended the season at 34.9%. Still, I'd say they're pretty comparable and interchangeable so it's not a given that Hart beats out Naji. I wish I had a way they could both be in the top 7, like if Zion could play backup center. But we don't really have that option so one of those 2 will be getting minimal minutes and there's no guarantee over the course of the year that Hart isn't the odd man out.

I'm not saying you just walk away from Hart for the hell of it, but Naji gave you that option and other big money moves might tell you that you need to go that direction.

You know how griff called Ingram a 2 guard?

I'm wondering if naji turning into a decent defensive player is making thay vision even more possible.

There's a real possibility that both naji and Josh are in the team. Both can grow into 3&d players. One is a guard and the other is a wing.

Just because folks are liberals doesn't make them shitty people man. Dafuq is wrong with you?

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Just because folks are liberals doesn't make them shitty people man.

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Hilarious and pretty hypocritical bait seeing that “Trump supporters” have essentially been declared terrorists in this country.

Yeah the political bs is kind of bothersome, but Shamit posts 95% basketball, so I don’t mind him. I just roll my eyes on the other 5% of his posts where he is calling people racists for literally no reason at all.

The thing I like about sports or “liked” about sports is that it is a great uniter of people and fans from all walks of life. Or at least it was before every athlete with past a 6th grade education started thinking they were the go to guy for social, political, and intellectual takes.

I generally just try to ignore it. The guy that probably triggers me the most is SVG, but I’ll admit I only check his twatter feed before key games and after ridiculous losses, so naturally seeing a bunch of unrelated to basketball bs is going to trigger most fans that just watched the 15th dumb loss of the year lol. I’m largely a conservative and even if SVG was posting about election fraud and capitalism instead of BLM and Socialism, I still would have a problem with it if it seemed like external things were clouding his ability to coach, which is a fair assumption based off of the many gaffes we saw from him this season.

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lol

Hart had all the opportunity in the world here to improve, establish himself as a starter in the league, and make himself some money. In the end he became passive aggressive towards the org and blamed not getting work with fred Vinson on his lack of improvement. Dude is a dollar store Danny green

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He's jealous that he's the role player and not high on a priority list in a limited offseason.

Like cmon, you think you're more important than say... Zion, Ingram, and ball?

Like I said in the first post. Dude is all about him and his bag. Him not getting to work with Vinson affected his bag. Him getting hurt and probably held out as a precautionary, is affecting his bag.

Let's be real, the more and more we talk about it. Hart may act like a team player, the grit guy, but he's always gonna put himself first. That being said 10mil max is where he belongs. He is a poor man's Marcus smart/Tony Allen defensive player who doesn't do anything well enough offensively to warrant 8 figures honestly.

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You know what else Naji is good at? Secondary playmaking. Guy is only 1 year removed from being the dude at Xavier where he was their key offensive hub and decision maker. Naji really has an exceptional feel for passing lanes and he’s one of the few guys on our team that can throw an on target alley oop pass.

Josh was good and I’ll miss him, but you are right, I think Naji is an upgrade to Josh in a few areas, plus is a couple years younger so he definitely has a higher ceiling to improve.

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As usual, I think there is a lot of recency bias with Hart/Naji. Naji showed some promise, but he is not a great 3 point shooter and at times, his shot selection is questionable. He is a very good on ball defender though. Hart is a very good defender and rebounder as well. I think it simply comes down to money.