re: John Hollinger's bizarre bitter hatred for the Pels continues

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Everything I attributed to Hollinger was Duncan, and vice versa

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So it’s Duncan more than Hollinger who slammed us?? If so maybe change the thread title.

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That, too, is a stupid take. Explain a way for use to have Zion and BI on this same roster that leaves us with cap space. You basically gut the roster to get one more player. You then have no way to upgrade beyond the MLE. As it stands, we have a solid roster, and several mid-sized contracts that can be paired with our arsenal of picks if the right player becomes available.

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I think it has more to do with strapping ourselves to CJ than anything else. We are already seeing a little of that with people wondering if we are potentially better without him on the floor.

Again, I am not saying he’s right, because even with how poor CJ has played at times this year, it’s hard not to give him credit for the teams’ overall improvement. You can’t really quantify the influence CJ has had on the team. For those reasons, I can see how someone who is only looking at the raw numbers may think the CJ move wasn’t necessarily the best move to make at the time.

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Do I love the contract? No. Is it a terrible contract? Absolutely not

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Yep

People think he's a guy who averaged 5.8ppg, but that's just on our team that is extremely deep.

He's 3 or 4 years removed from being a dude who gave a team 18 and 8 in more of a prominent role.

I see no reason he can't still go out and give someone 16 and 7. It's not a terribly efficient 16, but those types of numbers are not bad value at $12mil.

I think we should either use him as salary filler in a deal or just let his deal run out through next season then pay that partially guaranteed amount and let him become a FA.

CJ is responsible for Zion's extension. He's worth the money.

But yeah, we'll probably trade him before his deal is up.

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he criticizes us for having "to pay to get rid of Eric Bledsoe", and he attacks ownership.

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I swear to god I thought this was an old, bumped thread when I read this line

As far as their rankings goes, I think we were properly rated. Their top 10 are all organizations that have had a track record of being stable and practically successful a lot longer than the Pels. Outside if the 2nd half of last season, this is the first year where the entire concept of what the organization could be has come to fruition.

Side note: when factoring in their rankings for this list, they do not consider the success of the coach. It is pretty much a list built off the strength of the owner and front office.

Keep in mind, there were many rumors that Griff was on the hot seat and about to be fired.