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re: JJ on First Take just went IN on Zion
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:12 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Until today I was laughing at people who were saying we should’ve drafted Morant over Zion. I feel stupid now
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:13 pm to eyeran
No, the guy was never matured before we drafted him and he still hasn't developed into an adult. This past offseason he was still going to college frat parties.
I'm convinced he just hasn't matured enough to handle his career, and his parents have convinced him to let them handle it and he just be a kid.
I'm convinced he just hasn't matured enough to handle his career, and his parents have convinced him to let them handle it and he just be a kid.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:15 pm to Soggymoss
quote:This is something if true, I can’t wrap my head around. By my junior year I thought that it was extremely immature and frankly put, lame as frick to still be partying and getting wasted.
This past offseason he was still going to college frat parties
This is a guy who has the potential to be next LeBron, but he just can’t grow up. He may never grow up.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:16 pm to tgr4ever
I bet Zion still gets crayons with his place mat when he goes out to eat with the family.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:17 pm to saints5021
Live look at Zion and his nutritionists at Nike camp dining hall.


Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:18 pm to TigerinATL
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I'm not saying he isn't telling the truth, just that he has an agenda now.
Lol. He’s telling the truth.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:20 pm to Honest Man
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Basically called Zion a detached teammate and and unprofessional and lazy SOB.
So, he's Kawhi Leonard?
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:20 pm to tgr4ever
quote:lol pretty proud of being the “not fun at parties” guy huh
By my junior year I thought that it was extremely immature and frankly put, lame as frick to still be partying and getting wasted.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:24 pm to Gabe Rippen
Zion watching his reputation go down the toilet


Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:38 pm to PolishFan
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Until today I was laughing at people who were saying we should’ve drafted Morant over Zion. I feel stupid now
Wasn’t just you. I remember when there was a thread around draft time the idea was shot down with a fury even when a few posters made decent points.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:42 pm to jmcwhrter
Kushner:
The SVG hiring just makes a lot more sense now. David Griffin was hoping that an a-hole coach might be able to get Zion to wake up and better focus on his responsibilities. It failed spectacularly, but I understand the attempt. Sometimes, when an a-hole is yelling at you, it motivates you -- like a drill sergeant.
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JJ Redick is a Duke guy, a CAA guy and someone with a personal grudge against David Griffin.
For him to light Zion up as a bad teammate and not invested in the franchise or his career, is the most damning condemnation I can think of, short of a current teammate doing it.
The SVG hiring just makes a lot more sense now. David Griffin was hoping that an a-hole coach might be able to get Zion to wake up and better focus on his responsibilities. It failed spectacularly, but I understand the attempt. Sometimes, when an a-hole is yelling at you, it motivates you -- like a drill sergeant.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:45 pm to GOP_Tiger
TBF to Griff as well, both Zion and BI talked a big game about how they liked old school coaching and guys that would coach them hard, both inferred some blame toward Gentry for the team not reaching potential for not holding people more accountable, which, turned out to be just that for both of them: talk.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:47 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The SVG hiring just makes a lot more sense now. David Griffin was hoping that an a-hole coach might be able to get Zion to wake up and better focus on his responsibilities.
May have even asked JJ if he thought Stan could get Zion to focus like he did Dwight Howard
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:47 pm to GOP_Tiger
And yeah, the problem with a negative news leak about Zion was always that it would further hurt the relationship between him and the team.
For JJ to do it, when everyone knows that David Griffin didn't feed him that information, is perfect, because Griff's hands are obviously clean.
JJ Redick will always be a hero for doing this. If anything, it was tough love that Zion needs.
If this was a CAA action, then it was a last-ditch effort to get Zion away from his parents' influence. I have to believe that the parents have to act as intermediaries in any conversation that they have as well. And they know full well that Zion is destroying his value, both as a player and from a marketing standpoint.
For JJ to do it, when everyone knows that David Griffin didn't feed him that information, is perfect, because Griff's hands are obviously clean.
JJ Redick will always be a hero for doing this. If anything, it was tough love that Zion needs.
If this was a CAA action, then it was a last-ditch effort to get Zion away from his parents' influence. I have to believe that the parents have to act as intermediaries in any conversation that they have as well. And they know full well that Zion is destroying his value, both as a player and from a marketing standpoint.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:48 pm to Bronc
Zion must really miss having RJs dick inside his throat
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:49 pm to GOP_Tiger
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If this was a CAA action
That make a ton of sense actually. I really fricking hope he signs with Klutch, lol.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:Who would have thought..lol For better or worse, he got the gears moving.
JJ Redick will always be a hero for doing this
Like you say, no blood on Griff's hands.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:57 pm to touchdownjeebus
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That make a ton of sense actually. I really fricking hope he signs with Klutch, lol.
I mean CAA's influence is not some cartoon villain relationship.
CAA is an agency, with various interests, sometimes competing, sometimes in sync, with lots of moving parts.
Influence is likely much more diffuse, and there is no smoky room where the supposed CAA shadow masters gather and use their clients like pawns on a chess board, the clients ultimately hold more power. CAA being so invested with clients at ESPN and elsewhere just means they have the benefit of influence and selective sourcing to their clients on the network, can nudge them on matters here and there.
But the idea JJ was instructed to do this in the name of some larger architected conspiracy at CAA with the ultimate goal of getting him to NY is Q anon level stuff.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:His teammates are about to get bombarded by this when they get back from the break, while he's off the grid.
And yeah, the problem with a negative news leak about Zion was always that it would further hurt the relationship between him and the team.
Can't imagine they're going to enjoy that.
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