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re: Jack being traded to Warriors

Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:17 pm to
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Wishful thinking: Iguodala, but I don't know if the money works. Zach Lowe teased some big info at Philly at the end of his Court Vision column today- possible trade?


Word I've been hearing is that Iggy is out in Philly.

Besides the Wright trade and the continual trade rumors about him, there was also them drafting Moe Harkless and their media stuff for this season making their young guys like Young and Holiday the faces of the franchise.

I don't think we are necessarily getting him, but I think he is going somewhere.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:20 pm to
I'm afraid what the contract would look like if we out-signed Denver. We'd have to overpay out the a-hole to make Denver back off. Only way we get him is in a S&T which is unlikely anyway.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:20 pm to
haven't read through this thread, so I apologize if this has been discussed, but basically we gave Jack away for free?

quote:

To complete the trade, sources said, New Orleans will acquire the rights to Bosnian forward Edin Bavcic, whom Philadelphia acquired in a 2006 trade with Toronto.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:22 pm to
yep
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Member since Mar 2012
24260 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:24 pm to
well that pisses me right off
Posted by lroach2
Lake Chuck
Member since Jul 2008
1475 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:24 pm to
This trade is fricking retarded
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103883 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

haven't read through this thread, so I apologize if this has been discussed, but basically we gave Jack away for free?

quote:
quote:

To complete the trade, sources said, New Orleans will acquire the rights to Bosnian forward Edin Bavcic, whom Philadelphia acquired in a 2006 trade with Toronto.



Technically, yes.

We traded Jack for cap space and a $5.4m Traded Player Exception which stays on the book for a year.


I try not to look at it as "giving Jack away" until I see what Demps does with it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

but basically we gave Jack away for free?


Yes and no. We gave him away for current cap space and a $5.5 million trade exception which might be more valuable than Jack himself at the trade deadline. So basically Demps found a way to trade Jack's contract twice.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:27 pm to
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This trade is fricking retarded


Posted by imAMAZING
Member since Sep 2008
6355 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:28 pm to
Would Denver want to pay McGee top dollar since they probably will have to give Ty Lawson a big raise next season also? They are already tied to Gallinari for around 10.5 million, Al Harrington, Affalo and Chandler are also due around 7 million each through 2014-2015?

Correct me if I am wrong but that's a lot of money already tied up and I am assuming Lawson will get a contract excess of 10 mill.

LINK / their salaries

I have a feeling Denver would take a S&T deal from us for mcgee..or I am just optimistic
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:33 pm to
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Lawson will get a contract excess of 10 mill.


lolwut
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19519 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:35 pm to
Just got out of class to a 12 page thread on jack being traded.

I'm not wading though 13 pages of this, so can someone please give me a decently detailed cliff notes here?

It would be most appreciated.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:37 pm to
He got traded. People freaked. Everyone's calm now. We get cap space. Maybe a pick.

The end.
Posted by firejohnbrady
Chocolate City
Member since Dec 2007
863 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Just got out of class to a 12 page thread on jack being traded. I'm not wading though 13 pages of this, so can someone please give me a decently detailed cliff notes here?


We traded JJ to the Warriors for a 28 year old Bosnian guy
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

can someone please give me a decently detailed cliff notes here?


Rather than have Jack stunt the growth of Vasquez and Rivers he got traded. In doing so the Hornets freed up $5.5 million in cap space and got a $5.5 million trade exception. Jack was likely to get traded at the deadline any so the trade exception lets you do that and probably has more trade value than Jack himself. What Demps plans to do with the extra cap space now is unknown. He could put in an amnesty bid on a guy like Elton Brand, he could sign a player or take on a contract for a pick like the rumored Gomes/Beli S&T.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19519 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:40 pm to
Wow, not sure I'm a big fan of this. Seems like a pretty Shinn-esque move to me.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Seems like a pretty Shinn-esque move to me.


Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Seems like a pretty Shinn-esque move to me.


There's a difference between cutting payroll and creating cap space. Like I said, he basically found a way to use Jack's salary slot twice. That's not being cheap.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 4:43 pm
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:44 pm to
I'll call demps. Tell him danman doesn't approve. He will rescind the trade right away.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19519 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

There's a difference between cutting payroll and creating cap space. Like I said, he basically found a way to use Jack's salary slot twice. That's not being cheap.

Fair enough. Still not a big fan of it.
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