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re: Hollinger: Ball to Charlotte, Graham to Pels could be in works.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
quote:While his 2% percentage isn't very good, the real reason why his overall shooting percentage is so low, is because he shoots 75% of his shots from 3.
And not his career 37% shooting percentage? Lol
ETA: just for the sake of accuracy, for his career he shoots 64% of his shots from 3.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 9:08 am
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
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And not his career 37% shooting percentage? Lol
to be fair, 75% of his shots come from 3 where he hits 37%
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:08 am to Lester Earl
His first year numbers really bring that percentage down.
His past two years he was 37%+ from 3. Should be better from midrange and around the rim though.
He’s a good player. Lonzo is better but Lonzo is 100% gone imo so it’s just about finding a replacement and how.
His past two years he was 37%+ from 3. Should be better from midrange and around the rim though.
He’s a good player. Lonzo is better but Lonzo is 100% gone imo so it’s just about finding a replacement and how.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:09 am to Fun Bunch
I don't buy into this. Goes against everything the franchise has done this offseason.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:09 am to eyeran
quote:I don't think the paying Lonzo is the problem, I think it's the Rich Paul bitch that is Lonzo's agent, so if Lonzo doesn't want to be here, he'll just throw a fit, not play, etc...
And whats the number Griffin is ready to pay Graham, that he wouldn't just pay Lonzo?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:09 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
While his 2% percentage isn't very good, the real reason why his overall shooting percentage is so low, is because he shoots 75% of his shots from 3.
ETA: just for the sake of accuracy, for his career he shoots 64% of his shots from 3.
the argument doesn't hold water when his 2% is .380 and his 3% is .375
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:10 am to Lester Earl
quote:Is it still 2012? Who cares about shooting percentages anymore? You realize that he’s a high volume 3 pt shooter and had a 55% TS this past season correct?
And not his career 37% shooting percentage? Lol
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:11 am to tgr4ever
quote:
Is it still 2012? Who cares about shooting percentages anymore?
Every championship team since, ever
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:13 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Yall are acting like Graham isn't a good player,
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:14 am to Fun Bunch
Y’all can sugar coat anything
Volume player on a bad team who came into the league way older than the median rookie
Volume player on a bad team who came into the league way older than the median rookie
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:16 am to Lester Earl
NAW + opportunity > Graham
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:16 am to dj30
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
K
Graham is a good player. He isn’t a great one by any stretch. There’s many guys I’d rather have come including Lonzo. But any guy we bring in will be judged in the totality of what we do this whole offseason.
We can make a lot of room. What if Graham is relatively cheap and we also bring in a Dinwiddie and other guys?
Just wait and see.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:18 am to Lester Earl
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Y’all can sugar coat anything
well the question is if it's better than nothing or like a 2nd round pick and a small TPE that will likely only help with MLE guys who haven't lived up to the contract. like literally the question is if he's a negative player (b/c the alternative may be effectively 0)
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:18 am to Lester Earl
This board is really trying to convince itself that a 6’1 guard who can’t shoot or play defense is a good player 
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:19 am to Chad504boy
There's no world in which Devonte Graham is the lead guard on a good team.
A 6ft chucker that shoots sub-40% and plays no defense?
A 6ft chucker that shoots sub-40% and plays no defense?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Right. Again, Graham is very far from a top option to start at PG for me.
But let's look at the deal he gets, and all of the other moves we make, and then judge it.
But let's look at the deal he gets, and all of the other moves we make, and then judge it.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:19 am to Lester Earl
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Volume player on a bad team
His usage rate was only slightly higher than Lonzo's. He isn't a high usage player at all. High assist rate, low turnover rate. Gets to the free throw line much more than Zo and hits 82% of them.
He and Zo have very similar advanced stats. I think he is marginally better than Lonzo, but a much better fit for this team. I think this S&T actually makes sense, but I don't think it's a needle mover or our biggest move.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:21 am to Lester Earl
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And not his career 37% shooting percentage? Lol
Now take out his rookie year.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:22 am to Chad504boy
quote:Maybe I framed it incorrectly, the fact that his shooting percentage is 38% isn't as bad, because he takes the vast majority of his shots from 3.
the argument doesn't hold water when his 2% is .380 and his 3% is .375
He's still averaging 1.2 points per shot, even with a terrible shooting percentage. He's more efficient than Lonzo, even though Lonzo's percentages look better.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:23 am to Epic Cajun
Why do people assume that Graham wouldn't be flipped for something else?
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