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re: Herb was 1/7 and had the highest plus minus at +23
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:05 pm to Chalkywhite84
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:05 pm to Chalkywhite84
Herb plays that 4th against Indy Pels win
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:06 am to Dinky Mulberry
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Lakers would be the perfect fit
Yep that may be true. He could play nothing but defense and allow Luka to play nothing but offense . However they are going to want to give us table scraps for him.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:11 am to Dinky Mulberry
quote:I agree. He is good in transition, is a good passer, knows when/where to set screens, etc. It would be a plus if he could shoot closer to 34% from three instead of 30%, but beggars can't be choosers. We have enough guys on this current team who can handle the ball at 1-5 that it works fine. I wish Herb was getting closer to 30min per game without taking Bey's minutes away.
Herb is nowhere near as bad offensively...as many people think. I could explain why this is true...but it would take too long...and is fairly complicated.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:57 am to whatiknowsofar
I remember back when we had Herb and Dyson in the starting 5 for a brief moment, I was thinking man this is the best we looked starting games. Defense matters.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:58 am to whatiknowsofar
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plus minus
There are fewer stats in all of sports that I hate more than +/-.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:00 am to iwyLSUiwy
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There are fewer stats in all of sports that I hate more than +/-.
Would you prefer our record with herb starting?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:03 am to whatiknowsofar
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Would you prefer our record with herb starting?
That was not a knock on Herb. You could have told me what Michael Jordans career /- was and i would have hated it. it's an incredibly flawed stat on how to judge how well a player played or impacted the game. Way too dependent on how other players play to determine a single players value.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:20 am to Dinky Mulberry
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Herb is nowhere near as bad offensively...as many people think. I could explain why this is true...but it would take too long...and is fairly complicated. When Herb is eventually traded...he will suddenly become a much better offensive player and will probably be an even better defensive player than he is with the Pelicans. Other contending teams all realize this...which is why so many of them are interested in obtaining the guy. I hate to say it...but the Lakers would be the perfect fit for both Herb...and the Lakers. Just not sure they have the "ammo" to make that trade happen.
Yeah, herb with more spacing is not bad at all on offense. I agree, he would be so good on the Lakers. Luka would feed him so many good looks. I like the rookie they drafted from Baylor, if you count him as a 1st and they gave us a bunch of 2nds and no bad salary I would consider it for Herb. That would be a move you made at the deadline though if we were out of reach for the playoffs
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:52 am to Balsamic_duck
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Herb is nowhere near as bad offensively...as many people think. I could explain why this is true...but it would take too long...and is fairly complicated. When Herb is eventually traded...he will suddenly become a much better offensive player and will probably be an even better defensive player than he is with the Pelicans. Other contending teams all realize this...which is why so many of them are interested in obtaining the guy. I hate to say it...but the Lakers would be the perfect fit for both Herb...and the Lakers. Just not sure they have the "ammo" to make that trade happen.
Yeah, herb with more spacing is not bad at all on offense. I agree, he would be so good on the Lakers. Luka would feed him so many good looks. I like the rookie they drafted from Baylor, if you count him as a 1st and they gave us a bunch of 2nds and no bad salary I would consider it for Herb. That would be a move you made at the deadline though if we were out of reach for the playoffs
I'm guessing Luka and even Reaves would go out of their way to get Herb some wide open looks so he would fit in...and even more importantly...school Herb on how to finish at the hoop where he needs to learn how to "slow down"...like they can do SO well. Finishing at the hoop is a major weakness in Herb's game.
Then, maybe Herb could school both of them on how to play a bit of defense. And, with Kessler protecting the rim and Herb handling...well...EVERYWHERE else on the court...Lakers should have a formidable defense...for a change.
Now...figure a way to get the Pels 2 decent 1st round picks for Herb from the Lakers...and it's a win/win...for all concerned.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:58 am to Dinky Mulberry
frick the lakers.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:02 am to touchdownjeebus
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frick the lakers.
Not my first choice for sure...
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:31 am to Dinky Mulberry
“Finishing at the hoop is a major weakness in Herb's game.”
I think it’s his only real flaw. He is not a great shooter but he’s not terrible and he’s such a good defender, you could live with it. Unfortunately, too many promising possessions end with a miss bc he’s a below average finisher. And I say this as a HUGE Herb fan who owns a long sleeve T shirt with Herb’s face on it.
I think it’s his only real flaw. He is not a great shooter but he’s not terrible and he’s such a good defender, you could live with it. Unfortunately, too many promising possessions end with a miss bc he’s a below average finisher. And I say this as a HUGE Herb fan who owns a long sleeve T shirt with Herb’s face on it.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:50 am to Dinky Mulberry
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I'm guessing Luka and even Reaves would go out of their way to get Herb some wide open looks so he would fit in..
The Lakers have only (4) assets.
'32 LAL swap
WAS 2nd
WAS 2nd
LAL 2nd
Maybe that's enough to rent Herb for 1 month.
Lakers can't do shite without trading Reaves.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/6/26 at 3:33 pm to Dantheman504
Lakers will never trade Reaves for herb.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 3:42 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Lakers will never trade Reaves for herb.
No they would not. I wasn't implying they would, just implying that they don't even have assets to trade for Herb or anyone of higher value. They could get small improvements from trading the swap/ 2nds/ Vanderbilt but that isn't getting them very far.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 3:55 pm to Dantheman504
Who the hell wants Reaves?
Posted on 11/6/26 at 5:00 pm to Shimoda
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Who the hell wants Reaves?
Yeah who wants a guy averaging 23 pts that has to play next to someone averaging 38pts.
28.6 pts avg in 10 games without Luka last year. Who would want a player averaging 23-30pts per game?
I would love to drop any of our 15 players on last years Lakers team and see them hit a 4 game stretch averaging 41 pts/ 10 ast/ 5 reb on 42.5% 3pt
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