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Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:53 pm to Fun Bunch
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Perhaps waiting until after the series is over to trade a future pick…
We should always wait to trade a pick because the teams star player may pop his Achilles.
Wait wait wait he could also do it during the offseason during a pickup game so so don't do it then either.
In fact never trade any pick ever.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:06 pm to whatiknowsofar
We have about 7 examples of calf injuries leading to Achilles ruptures now
It was a reckless trade
It was a reckless trade
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:15 pm to 3PieceSpicy
The Pacers pick isn't going to end up in the lottery. Even with Halliburton healthy he wasn't the best player on the team for a lot of this series, and they have a great head coach.
They'll be a 6 or 7 seed next year in a weak east conference. It's not as big of a deal as some of yall are making it out to be.
They'll be a 6 or 7 seed next year in a weak east conference. It's not as big of a deal as some of yall are making it out to be.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:48 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:Not in game 7 of the NBA Finals.
Players are going to stop playing with calf strains.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:50 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:I mean, it was discussed quite a bit when Haliburton was first injured, that an Achilles is the #1 risk for playing through that specific injury.
We should always wait to trade a pick because the teams star player may pop his Achilles.
Wait wait wait he could also do it during the offseason during a pickup game so so don't do it then either.
In fact never trade any pick ever.
Meaning, his injury tonight was 100% not a fluke injury that came out of nowhere.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:53 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:That'll equate to somewhere around the 15th pick.
They'll be a 6 or 7 seed next year in a weak east conference. It's not as big of a deal as some of yall are making it out to be.
Not sure how going from the 15th pick to 23rd instead of waiting 5 days for an injury that we knew was a risk is considered not a big deal
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:16 pm to shel311
Man NBA players are never gonna play in the regular season after this.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:01 am to Fun Bunch
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Yes me
No actually Soggy called it…..
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Ehhh, the way our luck goes Halliburton is gonna blow his Achilles out in their next game, be out all next season and they will have the 1st pick
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:27 am to shel311
Not in PO (Damian Lillard and Jayson Tatum)
Posted on 6/23/25 at 2:33 am to Mad Scientist26
I want to say , use the bench players more often in season.
A team can have 15+ players i remember.
Really use the 15 players. Coaches like Thibodeau don’t have to exist.
A team can have 15+ players i remember.
Really use the 15 players. Coaches like Thibodeau don’t have to exist.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:28 am to Fun Bunch
I called it in the trade thread..
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:37 am to shel311
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Not sure how going from the 15th pick to 23rd instead of waiting 5 days for an injury that we knew was a risk is considered not a big deal
Because there's not a historically big difference between the 15th and 23rd pick hitting.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:02 am to shel311
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That'll equate to somewhere around the 15th pick.
Not sure how going from the 15th pick to 23rd
I think that pick ends up anywhere from #15-#22. A lineup of Nembhard/ Mathurin/ Nesmith/ Siakam/ Turner + McConnell/ Toppin/ Sheppard bench is still one of the more complete rosters in the East and has a chance at top 4/5.
1. This is a loaded draft with several players we may like that we think can impact this team now.
2. There could be a player that we'd draft at #15 that falls to us at #23 which would make this argument irrelevant.
3. If we get a player that has starter potential then it may give us options to move Herb/ Murray/ CJ and look at upgrades.
Its not that big of a deal and I'd still probably rather have #23 now while knowing the implications above.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Because there's not a historically big difference between the 15th and 23rd pick hitting.
Sengun/Trey Murphy went 16 and 17in ‘21
Usman Garuba went 23 that year.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:40 pm to Townedrunkard
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Sengun/Trey Murphy went 16 and 17in ‘21
Usman Garuba went 23 that year.
And jokic went 41st.
We can do this all day. Look it up by win shares/number of All star selections, etc. Its pretty much a crap shoot after the top 3 picks
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:45 pm to whatiknowsofar
This trade basically put a target on Dumars’ back to all other GMs. Just an incredibly low IQ trade that was pointed out on message boards at the time. Every GM now knows you can pull a fast one on ole Joe.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:39 pm to Dantheman504
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I think that pick ends up anywhere from #15-#22
Knicks
Boston
Miami
Philly
Cleveland
Detroit
Milwaukee
Atlanta
Orlando
All those teams are better than Indiana without Haliburton.
Indy will make the play in, they won’t win it to make the playoffs though.
That pick will be 10-14 at worst for them, and as far as trade value goes for us it would have skyrocketed after that injury
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:18 pm to whatiknowsofar
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We can do this all day. Look it up by win shares/number of All star selections, etc. Its pretty much a crap shoot after the top 3 picks
Doesn’t matter, that’s just stupid saying a pick that’s almost ten picks higher is the same. I’d want the choice, how many years have the Pels had players snatched in front of them. Lillard, Haliburton, Sengun, etc.
If anything pass top 3 doesn’t matter, guess there’s no difference between 7 and 15 right?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:20 pm to Townedrunkard
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that’s just stupid saying a pick that’s almost ten picks higher is the same.
What's stupid is ignoring data.
Specifically pick 15 or pick 25. Not just "ten picks higher" there is plenty of data that shows the NBA draft is pretty much a crap shoot outside of the top 5 picks.
Of course 1 is better than 10, 2 is better than 12th.
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