re: Fletch: ADs mind STILL not changed at all.

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You’re probably not going to. You’re trading $1 and getting $.60 cents back. Who can offer you the most and shiniest quarters is typically the best you’ll get.

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You typically never get more than .75 cents on the dollar in any trade involving a superstar. It sucks, but it's been proven time and time again.

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Winning Zion changed everything. Before we had to turn that pile of trash into a star player somehow. Now we only need to turn it into a good supporting cast.

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Completely agree, and I'm not sure AD and Zion fit the same timeline for the franchise. I think AD gives people hope that the rebuild can be avoided. I think Zion gives you the real hope of a very soft rebuild using AD to make it happen.

AD is a star, so losing him will hurt some, but that pain has been greatly mitigated with Zion.

The problem with the situation is that the fan got frustrated at the whole AD trade mess and yelled at AD over it, which AD responded to inappropriately.

Should the fan have done this? No. But it shows that AD has skin thinner than onion paper and that isn’t a good quality for a supposed star to have.

Got forbid Kevin Durant had told him his wife’s pussy tasted like Honey Nut Cheerios. He’d probably have gone full Kermit Washington on him like Melo tried in that situation.

This is a nothing story. Anyone who thinks that AD is going to give away any leverage before the meeting with Griffin is an idiot. Of course this is what AD is going to say. It's also what Griffin would want him to say at this point.

Really, it would look bad for Griffin if AD now said something like, "Well, I'm now open to staying," and then they meet and AD still wants out. It would look like a Griffin failure.

If AD is going to stay, it's better for him and for Griff if they meet and AD is "blown away" at the plan for the future and wants to be a part of it.

But, more than anything, I feel sure that if AD would consider staying, he would have some things that he wants from Griffin, and giving away that leverage would be stupid, so of course this is what Rich Paul is going to tell Fletch for now.

I think Jrue has that kinda game where he can still be high effective in his 30’s.

AD’s problem with leverage is that where he wants to go is a place which doesn’t have the assets to get him.

He seems dead set on the Lakers, who are an unbelievable shitshow right now and whose young players are of questionable quality and health.


A lot of the games being played are AD trying to force his way to LA for pennies on the dollar and us either keeping him or sending him elsewhere for at least a season.


What annoys me about all this is that he pretends it is about winning yet he wants to go to bad teams in huge markets. I’d respect him more if he wasn’t such a mealy mouthed bitch about it.

Nothing directly from him, just word from “his people” that he still wants out whenever the Pels end up in the news.

He’s ugly, not really interesting and definitely not intelligent. He’s goofy more than anything.

Can’t really see him as someone that inspires a marketing campaign.

Still haven't seen this so-called report yet.

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Why would AD need leverage? Either he gets a Supermax from the Pelicans (which they are obviously willing to give him), he does a one-year extension, or he says 'no thanks.'

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I mean, maybe he thinks that the team should have a famous executive chef preparing meals at the team facility. Maybe he thinks that there should be a better perks when the team travels. Maybe Rich Paul wants Griffin to pull some strings and somehow help out another Klutch client in some way. Maybe AD wants a guarantee that he won't have to play the 5, or he wants Griffin to get rid of some player or assistant coach that he hates.

I have no clue what things that AD/Rich Paul would want from Griffin/Gayle -- those were just random thoughts right now -- but I feel sure that, if AD actually is considering staying, there are some things that they would want.