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re: Facts are facts..
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:11 am to shel311
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:11 am to shel311
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Probably the most damning stat is in the clutch we have the 3rd worst net rating in the league, only ahead of the Wizards and Pistons.
and even more damning is that we don't get much practice at it.
We only have 23 games that gave us qualifying minutes in the clutch this year. That's dead last in the league. There are 20 teams with 30 or more games in the clutch.
We committ the 2nd most TO's in the clutch.
We have the worst FT% in the clutch at 65.6%
We have the 2nd worst 3P% at 23.5%
We are 2nd to last in Opponents 2nd chance points and points off turnovers.
This.....is our big problem come playoff time, and i'm curious how it plays out and what comes of it if it is our downfall.
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:12 am to jmcwhrter
quote:Some of the calls on him were ridiculous. The ref seemed to be watching for anything to call on him, even away from the ball.
. Herb gets in foul trouble early
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:25 am to TeddyPadillac
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Live by the three, die by the three.
It's why you have to have more to your offense than simply kicking out for 3's all game.
Zion scored 33 while BI scored 20 and they were both pretty efficient. Yes, I would have liked BI to shoot more 3's but they weren't the problem. We had more to the offense, they scored 53 points on a total of 1 3PA. The problem was we hit 2 3 pointers before garbage time. We would have struggled to beat the Pistons or Wizards last night. As stated above, we laid an egg. I am encouraged that Zion and BI were the ones who were up to the challenge last night. ATL is right that BI played well as the small ball center and that lineup looked better overall.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:25 am to bengalmd
Stop parroting mac talking points here. We shot less than 10% from 3. You're going to lose that game 100% of the time. Most of those being open 3's. Bad shooting nights happen. It's not same major cause for alarm.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:38 am to ThePistol
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The problem was we hit 2 3 pointers before garbage time.
The problem is we didnt even take 3s. 22 3PAs is god awful. It's absolutely a problem that BI only took 1 3PA. It clogs the lane and makes it damn near impossible to hit even league average in 3PAs.
Yes BI shot well last night, but Cleveland is happy to let him hit those shots because they know that 3>2. If BI isnt going to shoot 3s then that leaves 2 guys in our rotation(CJ and Trey) to take nearly all of our 3PAs.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:39 am to PP7 for heisman
quote:That's just a data point, it sure as shite isn't owned by Mac nor should we not discuss these recent struggles against good teams because maybe Mac talked about it.
Stop parroting mac talking points here
Not all of us follow that dude on Twitter, not sure why any of you bros do, to be honest
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:59 am to Balsamic_duck
I completely agree that BI has to take more 3's. I have been very outspoken about my concerns with his lack of 3's long term. I was just happy he and Zion weren't the problems last night.
Trey and CJ had multiple times that they were open and they didn't pull the trigger. Our lack of attempts was definitely influenced by the fact that we were 2/18 at one point.
Trey and CJ had multiple times that they were open and they didn't pull the trigger. Our lack of attempts was definitely influenced by the fact that we were 2/18 at one point.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:08 am to ThePistol
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Our lack of attempts was definitely influenced by the fact that we were 2/18 at one point.
Which is the Phoenix game all over again..
If Willie is watching CJ/Trey hesitate on open 3s because they've missed some, then you gotta adjust..
Gotta get in BI's ear to shoot more 3s, and let Hawk or Ryan put a few up. Hawk can't possibly play worse defense than CJ
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:28 am to ThePistol
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I completely agree that BI has to take more 3's. I have been very outspoken about my concerns with his lack of 3's long term. I was just happy he and Zion weren't the problems last night.
Trey and CJ had multiple times that they were open and they didn't pull the trigger. Our lack of attempts was definitely influenced by the fact that we were 2/18 at one point.
i disagree and think BI was a huge problem last night. We know willie doesn't want to play Matt Ryan or Hawkins. So BI not taking 3s puts all of the burden of taking and making 3s for this team on 2 guys. If one of them is off then you're screwed. Letting BI take 16 midrange shots is advantageous for the other team because it more likely than not means we arent going to get enough 3PAs.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 11:30 am
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:34 am to jmcwhrter
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Gotta get in BI's ear to shoot more 3s
The coaching staff and front office have been in his ear for like 3 years now that he needs to take more 3s. He doesn't listen. He simply refuses to do something that would greatly benefit the team. I want him gone ASAP.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:26 pm to bengalmd
This is why we need Dray
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:39 pm to PP7 for heisman
Funny that you think my post was based on one game. Read it again. Have no idea what “mac” is, so this has nothing to do with my post.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 12:58 pm to Balsamic_duck
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It's absolutely a problem that BI only took 1 3PA. It clogs the lane and makes it damn near impossible to hit even league average in 3PAs.
Yes BI shot well last night, but Cleveland is happy to let him hit those shots because they know that 3>2. If BI isnt going to shoot 3s then that leaves 2 guys in our rotation(CJ and Trey) to take nearly all of our 3PAs.
BI was our best creator last night. People talk about point-Zion, but we depend way more on point-BI most of the time. As I've described ad nauseum, unless you want BI to start taking a bunch of 3s off the dribble, he isn't going to get many open 3 attempts. He's the one, along with Zion, that's creating all of the attempts.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:04 pm to Balsamic_duck
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The coaching staff and front office have been in his ear for like 3 years now that he needs to take more 3s. He doesn't listen. He simply refuses to do something that would greatly benefit the team. I want him gone ASAP.
You deserve Julian Wright 2.0.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:06 pm to Balsamic_duck
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i disagree and think BI was a huge problem last night.
That must be why the Cavs would pull away every time BI went to the bench.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:08 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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BI was our best creator last night. People talk about point-Zion, but we depend way more on point-BI most of the time. As I've described ad nauseum, unless you want BI to start taking a bunch of 3s off the dribble, he isn't going to get many open 3 attempts. He's the one, along with Zion, that's creating all of the attempts
You act like BI is the only forward in the NBA that has playmaking duties. Plenty of forwards also playmake and are able to get up more 3PAs than BI. He just doesn’t want to. We don’t want or need the player you just described as BI. That kind of player doesn’t fit on this team at all.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:08 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:Zion had the same amount of potential assists as BI last night.
BI was our best creator last night. People talk about point-Zion, but we depend way more on point-BI most of the time
quote:Curious, when Zion has the ball, who do you think has more gravity as a catch and shoot 3pt shooter, Trey or BI?
As I've described ad nauseum, unless you want BI to start taking a bunch of 3s off the dribble, he isn't going to get many open 3 attempts
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:26 pm to Balsamic_duck
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So BI not taking 3s puts all of the burden of taking and making 3s for this team on 2 guys. If one of them is off then you're screwed.
2 guys?
Just CJ and Trey?
How about Herb?
How about Naji and Jose when they are in taking open 3's?
and yeah, if CJ adn Trey aren't making shot, we probably have a hard time winning. It's literally there role on the team, and it's important.
That's like saying if Zion doesn't score a somewhat efficent 23 tonight, we are screwed.
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Letting BI take 16 midrange shots is advantageous for the other team because it more likely than not means we arent going to get enough 3PAs.
exaggerate much?
So he only takes mid range shots? zero 3's, zero shots at the basket?
On the year, 60% of his shots are mid range shots. not 100%.
He was 5-9 from the mid range last night. Thats as effecient as going 37% from 3, and guess what his season average is from 3? 36.2?
so complaining about him going 5-9 from mid range, and not shooting more 3's is rather stupid from an efficency stanpoint.
How about we let BI do what he is good at, Zion do what he is good at, CJ/Trey/Herb do what they are good at, and we'll live with the results, b/c we have a top 10 efficiency offense.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:29 pm to Balsamic_duck
You have have be a double digit IQ to think BI was the problem last night.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 1:36 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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He's the one, along with Zion, that's creating all of the attempts.
For sure, and that's why Point Zion is explosive but not sustainable and Point BI a little less and more so. It's not the most concerning aspect for the team, that would be post-play. Pels half-court and crunch-time offense leaves so much money on the table.
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