re: Espn talking Durant to the Pels right now.

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Could have been put on hold because we are asking him to take less so we can fit in Durant

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Nah

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No, I was absolutely right that we were negotiating with the Nets on a deal for KD.

Does anyone in here still think that it's a coincidence that the Zion deal, which Shams said was practically done, didn't get done?

I'm sorry, ATL, but I don't think much of your earlier idea that the Zion deal was just something that we were holding off on announcing until the dust settled from the KD situation. If there were a deal, Zion and his agents would be trumpeting it. Zion would be posting about how excited he was, blah, blah, blah.

It's obvious now that the Zion extension got put on hold while we tried to trade for Durant.

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You seemed to have talked yourself into this giant theory that everyone stopped everything to pursue Durant. Do you really think the Pels would negotiate a full max deal for Zion and get close to completion only to tell him and his agent to hold on while they see if they can get KD instead? Now that the extension is done (the next day), maybe we can move on from that idea.

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Do you really think the Pels would negotiate a full max deal for Zion and get close to completion only to tell him and his agent to hold on while they see if they can get KD instead

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Um, you don't think that when Sean Marks called, that David Griffin stepped out the room so that he could talk to him?

And of course, if you decide to slow down a negotiation, you don't tell Zion and his agent that you are doing so to possibly trade him -- don't be silly. You do something like taking one of the details that you're negotiating about and tell Zion and his agent that you need to talk to Mrs. Benson about that detail, and then you have her be unavailable for 30 minutes. Stuff like that.

Who knows if any of that happened?

And shel?

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This was definitely one of the weirdest days I've seen from a solid poster in GOP.

He went off the rails and took one on the chin after taking his victory lap.

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LOL! I took no L's yesterday. My #1 contention was that we were in serious negotiations with the Nets for KD. I was absolutely correct about that, when the majority of the posters here were saying that it wasn't happening.

I also spent a fair amount of time yesterday refuting idiots who kept saying nonsense about KD having a horrible attitude, being a malcontent, going to wreck our culture, and other hogwash. All of that remains utterly stupid. People even tried to do the "injury prone" stuff when there were playoff games last season where he played 48 minutes. All of that was just a disgusting display of ignorance from this board as a whole.

My other guess (and that's all I ever claimed that I was offering -- I asked people for other explanations) was that Zion for KD was discussed. I still feel that it was. We'll never know, because Griffin will never admit it, but it obvious that the Nets didn't value Zion at the level that we did. Again, we'll never know, but there's no way that was an L for me.

And I was always clear that I didn't want to make that trade, but that I was explaining why, if the front office did want to make, why they might want to make it. So, yeah, I was saying that if the Zion relationship stuff still had problems, etc. ... and people kept taking that to see me as taking shots at their precious angel Zion who could never do no wrong, as though they weren't the ones trashing him and trying to get rid of him a few months ago. Dementia is this board's problem.

So, how did I take anything on the chin, shel?

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Do you really think the Pels would negotiate a full max deal for Zion and get close to completion only to tell him and his agent to hold on while they see if they can get KD instead


Um, you don't think that when Sean Marks called, that David Griffin stepped out the room so that he could talk to him?

And of course, if you decide to slow down a negotiation, you don't tell Zion and his agent that you are doing so to possibly trade him -- don't be silly. You do something like taking one of the details that you're negotiating about and tell Zion and his agent that you need to talk to Mrs. Benson about that detail, and then you have her be unavailable for 30 minutes. Stuff like that.

Who knows if any of that happened?

And shel?

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This was definitely one of the weirdest days I've seen from a solid poster in GOP.

He went off the rails and took one on the chin after taking his victory lap.


LOL! I took no L's yesterday. My #1 contention was that we were in serious negotiations with the Nets for KD. I was absolutely correct about that, when the majority of the posters here were saying that it wasn't happening.

I also spent a fair amount of time yesterday refuting idiots who kept saying nonsense about KD having a horrible attitude, being a malcontent, going to wreck our culture, and other hogwash. All of that remains utterly stupid. People even tried to do the "injury prone" stuff when there were playoff games last season where he played 48 minutes. All of that was just a disgusting display of ignorance from this board as a whole.

My other guess (and that's all I ever claimed that I was offering -- I asked people for other explanations) was that Zion for KD was discussed. I still feel that it was. We'll never know, because Griffin will never admit it, but it obvious that the Nets didn't value Zion at the level that we did. Again, we'll never know, but there's no way that was an L for me.

And I was always clear that I didn't want to make that trade, but that I was explaining why, if the front office did want to make, why they might want to make it. So, yeah, I was saying that if the Zion relationship stuff still had problems, etc. ... and people kept taking that to see me as taking shots at their precious angel Zion who could never do no wrong, as though they weren't the ones trashing him and trying to get rid of him a few months ago. Dementia is this board's problem.

So, how did I take anything on the chin, shel?

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Come on, be serious. Not sure how you got to such a detailed wild fantasy, but you did. I don't buy that any of it were even close to reality. That is not to say that I do not believe that Griffin has talked to or at least planned for a potential deal for Durant. But that is separate from the negotiations whereby Griffin steps out of negotiations to stall. All of those things go on simultaneously. Griffin does not literally have to stop one think to take a call or think about another thing.

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You base this on what?

Take a break champ

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Seriously

Griff wasn't in a press conference so clearly that proves he was correct because Griff could be only possibly be talking a KD trade at that time. This is some wild stuff

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it’s the 100% confidence in the wild speculation that we are taking issue with

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Yeah, he went full ZAnon.

GOP is out to sea, we lost him, Pels Talk.

Hopefully he finds his way back some day.

He's establishment GOP, it's very sad. Lindsey Graham.

Don't do it.