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Draft Lottery what ifs: Bulls, Cavs, Suns, Hawks, Wizards
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:39 pm
We've spent sooooooooooooo much time focusing on the Knicks or the Pels getting the 1st or 2nd pick, and talking about Boston's trade assets..
That we gloss over the fact that some combination of the other 5 teams in the top 6 could be 1/2...and then what do we do?
Do any of those teams have:
1) assets, outside of the top 2 pick, that could paired with it to get AD and please us (and outbid Boston)?
and
2) The desire/balls to trade for AD on a 1 year deal while giving up a ton of assets?
It seems like several of those teams would not have confidence they could keep AD and wouldn't consider the deal, instead keeping Zion or Ja.
That we gloss over the fact that some combination of the other 5 teams in the top 6 could be 1/2...and then what do we do?
Do any of those teams have:
1) assets, outside of the top 2 pick, that could paired with it to get AD and please us (and outbid Boston)?
and
2) The desire/balls to trade for AD on a 1 year deal while giving up a ton of assets?
It seems like several of those teams would not have confidence they could keep AD and wouldn't consider the deal, instead keeping Zion or Ja.
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:41 pm to Fun Bunch
Chicago's assets have gone too far under the radar IMO.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:44 pm to Fun Bunch
bulls seems like a dead end.
cavs same.
suns i have no idea.
hawks absolutely if they get #2; no way they give up zion.
wizards need the rookie contract.
cavs same.
suns i have no idea.
hawks absolutely if they get #2; no way they give up zion.
wizards need the rookie contract.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:47 pm to Chad504boy
What are their assets? Markkanen and LaVine?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:48 pm to cgrand
Really, I'm just trying to work through our worst case scenarios here.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:48 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
Markkanen and LaVine?
and their pick... already looks better than boston's package to me.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:53 pm to Chad504boy
I'm just not sure that the Bulls would give up all of that to get AD with no assurances of a future contract. I don't see them as being confident that he stays like the Knicks or Celtics might be. No other stars are going to Chicago with that management and ownership...
Of course Dolan is still the owner in NYK so who knows.
Of course Dolan is still the owner in NYK so who knows.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:55 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
worst case scenarios
#1 goes to any team other than the knicks or pels.
#2 goes to any team other than the knicks, pels, or hawks.
pels pick drops below #7.
MEM pick drops to #9 & conveys.
i'm sure there are other bad things as well.
in that case, the zion/ja dream is dead, and we will be trading for young players and draft prospects
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:00 pm to cgrand
Just need to bring this guy back...
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:02 pm to medtiger
Put them ping pong balls in the freezer Papa Stern 
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:13 pm to Fun Bunch
I think ATL might make a move for AD if they get #2. Schlenk is a sharp GM and has been acquiring assets. I also think for opposite reasons you could see a move from PHX or CHI. They are both poorly managed. PHX has already signaled it wants to bring in vets and CHI management could convince themselves that once home AD would get them in the playoffs and he wouldn't want to leave.
CHI can offer something like Otto, #2 or #3 and WCJ.
ATL has a lot of assets can be Huerter, Bembry, Bazemore and #2 or #3. They also have the Dal pick.
PHX would likely keep Ja or Zion, so it would need to be #3, but it could be something like #3, Warren, Bridges, and future picks.
CHI can offer something like Otto, #2 or #3 and WCJ.
ATL has a lot of assets can be Huerter, Bembry, Bazemore and #2 or #3. They also have the Dal pick.
PHX would likely keep Ja or Zion, so it would need to be #3, but it could be something like #3, Warren, Bridges, and future picks.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:15 pm to Fun Bunch
Wendell Carter
Dunn
Valentine
Dunn
Valentine
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:21 pm to Fun Bunch
i swear i ran the lotto sim at least ten ties just now, and the pels kept coming up 1 or 2
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:37 pm to cgrand
I ran 5 simulation
New York 2, New Orleans 9
New York 1, New Orleans 7
New York 3, New Orleans 1
New York 4, New Orleans 2 (LA Lakers 1)
New York 1, New Orleans 8
New York 2, New Orleans 9
New York 1, New Orleans 7
New York 3, New Orleans 1
New York 4, New Orleans 2 (LA Lakers 1)
New York 1, New Orleans 8
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:55 pm to htran90
That 4th one would be funny
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:29 pm to htran90
quote:
New York 4, New Orleans 2 (LA Lakers 1)
Would still spite the Lakers and draft Morant and trade AD to Boston for hopefully Tatum and Brown. With the way Tatum played this season, I am hoping his stock is truly down and we can squeeze both him and Brown from Boston.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:30 pm to htran90
Sentencing AD to playing in LA would probably be the ultimate case of “be careful what you wish for”.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:38 pm to LosLobos111
Yep, I would tell LA give me Zion and Ingram (assumingour new trainer thinks he can work with him), AD and Hill is yours.. You can keep everything else
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:44 pm to Soggymoss
What is ADs issue with Chicago? Why does he not want to play there?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:46 pm to saints5021
GarPax and Reisendorf are my guesses.
Shitty front office and shitty owner.
Shitty front office and shitty owner.
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