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re: Charlotte would prefer BI

Posted on 6/18/23 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 3:40 pm to
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If we do that with BI, we're cooked. If he's the #2, that's fine



That’s fine but we still have to move off CJ if we keep BI
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71027 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 3:49 pm to
This isn’t the slightest bit surprising. BI actually seems to take being an nba player seriously.
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
443 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 4:14 pm to
Gym rat
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112637 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

That’s fine but we still have to move off CJ if we keep BI
Correct between now and the next 2 seasons, CJ would have to be moved.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 5:34 pm
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7800 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:17 pm to
You don’t know ball if you haven’t recognized the improvements of Ingram over the past 2 seasons. He’s proven he can be a very effective player in play in and playoff games.

Obviously he’s not a 1 on a title team. But if Gumbo would ever suit up and play, he could be a 2 or they can both alternate being the 1’s.

The only 2 draw back on Ingram are his low 3 pt attempts and he takes double the time to heal from injuries.

But let’s be real, if Zion was only as efficient as Ingram in his injury recoveries, we make the playoffs in 2019, 2021, 2022, and 2023.

But Zion is somehow even worse at meeting rehab timelines.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101521 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:02 pm to
Trade that bum CJ and his top 5 worst contract in the league
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:20 pm to
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CJ and his top 5 worst contract in the league

Uhhhh, excuse me, WHAT?
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7777 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:21 pm to
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CJ and his top 5 worst contract in the league


Winston is a tard but CJ's contract does suck. Maybe not top 5 but it's bad.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:23 pm to
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but it's bad.

It absolutely is not bad, CJ doesn’t have negative value like half of y’all believe he does.

If we were to trade him and take back an actual bad contract we could get 2 1sts for him guaranteed.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7800 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:39 pm to
CJ Probably has the worst contract on our team, but I honestly think that he would have at least neutral trade value league wide bc he’s a professional scorer and a professional on and off the court.

If you timed up a trade at the trade deadline properly to a team that needed him for a stretch run, I think we could get assets for him.

This is all assuming he plays a little better next year once he heals from the injuries he was playing through.

Bottom 5 contract is crazy. If he was making 45 million plus, then it’s a conversation, but he’s making low to mid 30’s.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33925 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:31 pm to
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It absolutely is not bad, CJ doesn’t have negative value like half of y’all believe he does.



I don't think cj has negative value because he can get by scoring at an advanced age.

Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33925 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

Bi Base salary for 23-24 is 33.8 mill



I meant on his new deal. Sorry I didn't clarify. The post I was responding too was talking about what bi would make on a new contract.

I still see the pels basically running it back with the core for this next season.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101521 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:45 am to
quote:

Winston is a tard but CJ's contract does suck. Maybe not top 5 but it's bad


+ 1
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20737 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:49 am to
quote:

You don’t know ball if you haven’t recognized the improvements of Ingram over the past 2 seasons.


C'mon, man. I even said in my post that he hasn't peaked yet. Of course, I recognize how he's improved. I love watching him play.

quote:

The only 2 draw back on Ingram are his low 3 pt attempts and he takes double the time to heal from injuries.



No, there are other drawbacks, especially his poor defense, his tendency towards iso ball, and the weakness of his handle which can lead to turnovers.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20737 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:16 am to
But this is why it's very hard for us to trade BI. This I agree with:
quote:

“I feel like if you lose Brandon, you will lose the locker room.. I think Brandon is the big brother of everybody.”
@Lito_TheGawd
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:19 am to
Teammates would get over it as soon as we go above .500, aka something Ingram can’t lead this team to
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7777 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:21 am to
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“I feel like if you lose Brandon, you will lose the locker room.. I think Brandon is the big brother of everybody.”



Who cares?

The tight "locker room" folded completely when Zion got hurt.

I'm done with the kumbaya shite. These are professionals and maybe it would wake some of them up.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:30 am to
Yup, winning cures all
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20737 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Teammates would get over it as soon as we go above .500, aka something Ingram can’t lead this team to



It's not an impenetrable barrier, which is why I said that it makes it "hard" to trade him, not "impossible."

Our team lacks leadership. CJ is one kind of leader, and BI is another.

The flip side of that is that Scoot seems to have natural leadership qualities.
Posted by Honest Man
Member since Feb 2021
1048 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:09 am to
Thank you
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