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Charlotte would prefer BI

Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by BradleyBadd
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:14 pm
Says shams as of 3pm lol
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:15 pm to
BI isnt getting traded. God I hate this time of year.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:25 pm to
BI is probably the most untouchable player on the entire team. No chance he gets traded.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:28 pm to
Why? crazy how a guy who isn’t a #1, who gets hurt often,a player we’ve accomplished nothing with, and is up for another big contract on a team with cap issues is considered untouchable
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:58 pm to
His first 3 years in Nola, he averaged nearly 60 games a season. In today's NBA, that isn't terrible.

This season, he averaged 25ppg (career high), 5.5 rebounds, 5.8 assists (career high), 88% FT (career high) on 6 attempts per game (career high), 39% from 3, 48% FG on 18.6 shots a game (career high).

He's also only 25 years old still.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 3:59 pm to
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Why?

He actually wants to be here and has real relationships with his teammates.

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team with cap issues

Over-blown, esp if we ultimately deal Zion.

We can structure the new extensions around CJs deal, too.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:03 pm to
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and is up for another big contract


In like 2 seasons. He isn't up for any contract.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:04 pm to
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He actually wants to be here and has real relationships with his teammates.
cool I want to win. We haven’t done that with him at the helm.

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Over-blown, esp if we ultimately deal Zion.


So if we deal Zion eventually then Bi will be our #1. That hasn’t worked out well for us so far.


We’re talking about just becoming another Hawks or Wizards. Sitting in mediocre shite year after year
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:05 pm to
You cannot structure new extensions around CJs deal. This isn’t the NFL. To afford Herb and Trey extensions they will have to trade CJ. Dealing Zion would help though.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:09 pm to
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In like 2 seasons. He isn't up for any contract.
he could sign an extension now. But writers say it’ll be next summer when he’ll potentially do the extension.

And then you gotta worry about if he’ll even stay and sign one with us.


To me it’s a no brainer with the flexibility, longevity it would bring to go along with everything else
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:28 pm to
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To me it’s a no brainer with the flexibility, longevity it would bring to go along with everything else



You're very unlikely to get something in return that produces on the same level as BI. You may get a star player in return who does, but then you're paying a huge salary for them too. If you're hoping to get a star in the draft who puts up BI numbers, decades of history tell you that is extremely unlikely.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:36 pm to
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You're very unlikely to get something in return that produces on the same level as BI. You may get a star player in return who does, but then you're paying a huge salary for them too. If you're hoping to get a star in the draft who puts up BI numbers, decades of history tell you that is extremely unlikely.


I feel very confident Scoot will at least be an all star reserve one time within 8 years in the league like BI.

And you’d be paying a huge salary 5 years from now if scoot did become a star. Idk why that’s relevant rn.

Look if we were actually doing something with this team, I’d agree with y’all. But we’ve been mediocre at best for 4 years of this experiment with 2 playoff wins. This is a golden opportunity to get a potential franchise player. A guy who would have been number 1 in a lot of these recent drafts. Would also give us more flexibility to get shooters, give Trey more playing time, and a more concrete future even if we did trade Zion at some point.


Plus I think scoot is the type of vocal leader this team has craved from a star since the Griff era has started
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:42 pm to
Hes a one time all star that scores what around 24 points a game. I mean you do realize BI was picked second as well right? If it wasn’t for Wemby, Scoot would be number one and likely the first pick in other drafts. The huge salary is incorrect he would be on a rookie deal and dont have to give him a huge deal in a while. I don’t think people understand we’re not trading BI for some iffy prospect. This dude is universally known as tye best guard in the draft and likely franchise player. People didnt even think BI was that wheh he was drafted.
Posted by higgsBoson
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:46 pm to
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I feel very confident Scoot will at least be an all star reserve one time within 8 years in the league like BI. And you’d be paying a huge salary 5 years from now if scoot did become a star. Idk why that’s relevant rn.


Exactly. We have salary issues right now. Five years is a lot of opportunity to fix the cap issues. Basically CJ will surely be gone and we can deal with Herb and Trey. The prospect of signing BI next year and Herb and Trey is really constricting. It means we’ll have to deal CJ from a point of extreme weakness. We’ll be paying someone to take his contract.

And let’s not forget they might rather keep CJ than BI or Zion. People like working with professionals. It might be nice having an adult on the team…
Posted by BradleyBadd
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:49 pm to
Insert all BI’s career numbers from last year here…
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:53 pm to
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nsert all BI’s career numbers from last year here…
you can do that. All I know is those great numbers got us the 10th seed and losing to the fricking Thunder at home in the play-in. Ingram is like Derozen. Good numbers that don’t seem to translate to winning big and doing something special.
Posted by BradleyBadd
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:54 pm to
Bro U seem to forget Injuries are the problem…not talent
Ingrams numbers coNtinue to slowly progress
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Bro U seem to forget Injuries are the problem…not talent
just another reason why you should get scoot. You can’t have BOTH your stars get constantly injured. If both get hurt again (likely) then you’re looking at another failed season. You’re blowing up the team at that point anyway.
Posted by BradleyBadd
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 4:59 pm to
Zion injuries bro…cmonnn…Zion don’t miss the season and pels are top 3 seed…
And yes untimely injures to cj bi Jose and Nance aswell sure
Pels not only team/players that get injured.
Zion health is the key to success. Bi isn’t an overly injured player
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 6/16/23 at 5:03 pm to
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Zion don’t miss the season and pels are top 3 seed
you know BI missed half the season too right? With his concussion that took 2+ weeks to recover, he’s turf toe that took 2+ months, etc. when BI gets hurt, he’s out for the longest possible time that injury requires to heal for. He only played in 55 the year before as well.

Meanwhile CJ played with a torn labrum and a fricked up thumb for months. Nance played injured as well. Players get hurt all the time like you said in this league. Some play through out. Others don’t (BI)


And who knows if we would have actually wound up top 3. We’re riding the success of a really good month of basketball and assume it would remain like that the rest of the way.
This post was edited on 6/16/23 at 5:06 pm
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