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re: Can we trade the NBA farm team and try a NHL team instead?

Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5903 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:17 pm to
An mlb team would do poorly here. We are just way to small a market to handle 81 home games or the 41 home games or an nba team.

The sport just isn’t relevant here, but an mls team is the real answer. That season is almost fully opposite the saints and only requires 17 home games. The games are short, largely played at night and 15,000 is respectable attendance.

There just aren’t enough people with both the time and money to make up 41 home games crowds in this market.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21659 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:35 pm to
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mls team
idk I don’t think men my age( mid 50’s) would go I went to watch a high school soccer game last year, shite was boring. I know get off my lawn
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42376 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:45 pm to
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Dude, …sunken cost. Ya gotta cut your losses and try something else after a while.



You probably need to start listening to what the owner is saying instead of Stephen A and Jalen Rose. You sound just as clueless as them in regards to how the owner feels. Her opinion matters right? I don't know, maybe not according to some fans.

What you're suggesting is even worse. I would love a baseball team in LA, I've lost my love of the game over the past 7-10 years or so. That would get me invested again. N.O. would support it at first but a bad baseball team here would be a disaster. Ticket sales would be embarrassing. There just wouldn't be enough support for that many games.

NHL could possibly work. But it certainly wouldn't be a big money maker. For years Bossier had one of the best minor league hockey teams. Nice arena, cheap tickets and a team that won championships. It was the only sport North LA had to support and they ended up leaving for San Antonio (somewhere like that) because it got no support and was bleeding money. I know it's not the NHL, but it's still hockey in LA, and it's not popular.

The MLS I could see, for all the reason mentioned above. They are a blast to go to as well and it wouldn't be nearly as much of an investment.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42376 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:48 pm to
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idk I don’t think men my age( mid 50’s) would go I went to watch a high school soccer game last year, shite was boring. I know get off my lawn


There's such a huge gap in quality of play, it's hard to make that comparison. I've never been to a high school soccer game and never will unless my unborn child ends up playing it. But I would buy season tickets to a an MLS team. Plus it makes it more fun when you become invested in the team and league. Which is never going to happen with high school soccer lol.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:52 pm to
It’s counter intuitive but the NHL’s hard cap is one of the big things that makes every team have a real chance
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:22 pm to
If we get rid of the NBA team and get an NHL franchise instead, can the new arena PLEASE be in Metairie or the Northshore?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:24 pm to
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new arena PLEASE be in Metairie or the Northshore?


Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:35 pm to
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Dude, why continue pooring time energy and money into a franchise that can’t succeed here. It won’t/can’t.


As opposed to hockey team on the gulf coast.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1432 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:44 pm to
frick no. Nobody wants to go to metry or Slidell.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2248 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 1:03 am to
The team in still young in New Orleans years. It took the Saints something like 24 years to win even one playoff game, and like 42 years to appear in a Super Bowl.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54819 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 1:23 am to
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frick no. Nobody wants to go to metry or Slidell.




?????

the fanbase would live in Metairie and Mandeville... if an arena was where Lakeside Mall is it would do better than the SKC

think the new Braves stadium
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 1:28 am
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:59 am to
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frick no. Nobody wants to go to metry or Slidell.


90% of the paying/attending fans for NHL in the metro area would be in East Jefferson and St.Tammany.

That’s where the arena should be.

Why make them go downtown to that shithole?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54819 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:57 am to
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90% of the paying/attending fans for NHL in the metro area would be in East Jefferson and St.Tammany.


Maybe not 90 but at least 60
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19536 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:21 am to
You could say the same thing about 20 other franchises. Might as well move the Twolves, Magic, Grizz, Hornets, Jazz, and others to a California or New York city.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4281 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:41 pm to
This franchise can only ever be a farm team. It’s the nature of the NBA. Can’t draft players that won’t chase fame to NY or Cali after their contract is up, and can’t get any elite player to come here from another team in a successful trade. It won’t happen here. Not in our lifetimes.

I would rather have a franchise here with a legitimate chance at sustaining championship success for long term. NHL or MLB give you a better shot than this pelicans/hornets experiment gave us.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20973 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:48 pm to
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I would rather have a franchise here with a legitimate chance at sustaining championship success for long term. NHL or MLB give you a better shot than this pelicans/hornets experiment gave us.


There have been some really bad takes on this board, but this one is one of the very worst.

There is zero chance an NHL franchise would be successful. The NHL has been successful in some big Southern cities that have lots of transplants (who played hockey as kids and grew up with the sport), but New Orleans is way smaller than them and has very few transplants.

MLB is preposterous. We couldn't even keep a AAA team. It would be crazy hard even if South Louisiana weren't so focused on LSU baseball.

I seriously wonder if you are just trolling with this stuff, or if you actually believe it.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42376 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:50 pm to
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This franchise can only ever be a farm team. It’s the nature of the NBA. Can’t draft players that won’t chase fame to NY


Curious to all of the examples of this happening?
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:56 pm to
Dude NOLA not going to support a hockey team do you remember the Brass. And we would never be in the running for a MLB team our population is to small to support 81 home games for a baseball team that would have to avg at least 30,000. Do you remember the Zyphers the shrine on Airline stayed empty.

Basketball is the best sport behind Football to have in a city. Even when we suck we still get entertainment moments we will never forget see last night.

That thread about the wildest finishes in franchise history shows just that. Even though we sucked for the majority of the time we still had so many great moments we can name and look back on with enjoyment. I will never forget that CP3 game winner on MLK day vs the Pacers "Bottom!!!".
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 1:05 pm to
Hard disagree.

The Bucks just won a chip against the Suns, teams that went through the Jazz, Hawks, Nuggets.

Poor GM'ing doesn't mean it can't be done.

A few small, common sense changes to how we approached this current rebuild and this team is in a much different place.

The reason we end up as a farm team has to do with poor management, not because it is physically impossible.

If you bring in an MLB or NHL team with similarly poor managemnet, it will be no different.
Posted by purplepanther
Member since Sep 2021
550 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:04 pm to
You fail to realize that people from Mobile, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, Hattiesburg, Gulfport, Biloxi, and the surrounding cities in general have people who hold season tickets to Saints game.
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