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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:03 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:03 am to Fun Bunch
I can't see how the Pels don't have depth next year and moving forward. They are going to get so much from AD and will actually have their own pick in the draft plus the time they are giving Frank, Jah and K Will now -- they might have TOO MUCH depth
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:03 am to Crewz
True but if these last few games have taught us and maybe even them anything is that scoring isn't the issue if jrue and a bunch of guys can do what they're doing.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:05 am to roguepelican
Agree. Points is the easiest thing to replace and that has always been the case.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:07 am to roguepelican
And the right rotation as well.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:08 am to Crewz
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Frank, Jah and K Will now -- they might have TOO MUCH depth
That's why Etwaun needs to get moved, even if it's just for a 2nd. I feel like he's just not going to be useful for us next year on the court, and even if he is useful, I don't want him getting minutes over younger guys. And I like Etwaun.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:08 am to JayJay2
Any of you guys think Kawhi leaves Toronto if they bomb early in the playoffs?
Would love to see him and Jrue play together and we could become a defensive training ground. With the right shooting coach that could be a squad and a half.
Would love to see him and Jrue play together and we could become a defensive training ground. With the right shooting coach that could be a squad and a half.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:10 am to TeddyPadillac
They are getting zero quality offers for Moore. They would happily take an expiring and a mid to late 2nd. Can't even get that
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:11 am to Crewz
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Agree. Points is the easiest thing to replace and that has always been the case.
Well there is points and there is points.
Meaning how you score them to me is as important as how much your score. Some models are sustainable and winning basketball.
Are we scoring efficiently? Are we making 3s at a high percentage level to set up easier scoring in the paint? Are we scoring in transition on easy buckets?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:12 am to hometownhero89
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Any of you guys think Kawhi leaves Toronto if they bomb early in the playoffs?
Would love to see him and Jrue play together and we could become a defensive training ground.
We have no shot whatsoever at Kawhi. Ever.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:13 am to ShamelessPel
I think you also need to factor in the fact that whatever production Tatum/Brown/etc. currently give you in Boston, you'll get about 75% of that in New Orleans
Lower team expectations.. worse supporting cast.. horrific training staff..
Lower team expectations.. worse supporting cast.. horrific training staff..
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to Crewz
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I agree. I'd go lower usage guys who can impact the game without taking or making shots. My fear is that this team acquires too much talent that impact the game most by scoring
So if you play more lower guys who don't take shots then you easily frame out who's going to always be going for the points in your scheme.
In just a game theory sense, I don't like that. They can improve the efficiency of the team by teaching players to assess their situations better aka Rondo-esq film study as a team.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:14 am to Crewz
they need a bruiser with a death stare...harrell fits.
they need a facilitator with IQ and vision.
they need a rim protector.
they need a volume shooter without conscience.
they need a facilitator with IQ and vision.
they need a rim protector.
they need a volume shooter without conscience.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:15 am to Fun Bunch
Lol we're discussing basketball not planning a heist.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:15 am to NOFOX
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Smart-Jrue-Brown-Tatum-Rim Protector is an interesting lineup that could be special defensively while still playing uptempo.
That's the thing they need to figure out, and to a certain degree they kind of need to figure it out now. If they trade Tatum/Smart/Brown for just AD the Pels will have negligible cap space if they plan to keep Niko too. They'd pretty much be limited to the MLE. I'm just not sure what kind of rim protection you're going to get with the MLE. So then the question becomes do you do a "save a team money" trade like Ajinca for Wes Johnson using Solo? Solo for Biyombo for instance?
BUT, if Solo for Biyombo is the likely way you plug that hole, for the love of God why aren't you doing Randle/Moore for Biyombo and a 1st now? I get the Pels wanting to have as clean of a slate as possible for the next GM, but it just feels like where the team is at more assets would be better than a cleaner slate.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:17 am to Crewz
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They are getting zero quality offers for Moore. They would happily take an expiring and a mid to late 2nd. Can't even get that
figures. You look at his stats and he looks similar to last year, but watching him this year, he doesn't look like he did last year. I think he's had some lingering injuries all year. He doesn't appear as aggressive and confident as last year, although he didn't look that good in the playoffs either.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:17 am to hometownhero89
It’s time for News Orleans to build a team like Utah and Denver. Use that blueprint to put together a team. We don’t need or want players who don’t want to be here. Draft smart, develop your guys, and trade for players who will come to your team for the right reasons.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:18 am to hometownhero89
I don't believe you can re-train high usage guys to be lower usage guys unless you are winning at a massive clip.
If you aren't winning 60-70% of your games, guys will start to look out for themselves and their numbers if they think that scoring will get them their next big paycheck.
The Pels won't win at a clip like that, so they need to get guys who believe their paycheck will be determined by the other things they do.
If you aren't winning 60-70% of your games, guys will start to look out for themselves and their numbers if they think that scoring will get them their next big paycheck.
The Pels won't win at a clip like that, so they need to get guys who believe their paycheck will be determined by the other things they do.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:22 am to supe12sta12z
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It’s time for News Orleans to build a team like Utah
We're talking about getting a rim protector with a death stare, not one who cries on national tv b/c he didn't make the all star team.
I kid, but I agree with a team build in that mold. Both of those team, Toronto as well, have been making solid picks in the draft and finding contributors. AD is the only guy on the team currently that we drafted, and i'm not counting Miller b/c he had to get better in Europe, not with us.
That needs to change going forward.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:23 am to jmcwhrter
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I think you also need to factor in the fact that whatever production Tatum/Brown/etc. currently give you in Boston, you'll get about 75% of that in New Orleans
Lower team expectations.. worse supporting cast.. horrific training st
I don't know man. Tatum and Brown looked like world beaters in the postseason last year. All of a sudden they're behind Irving and sharing time with Gordon Hayward, and they come back down to earth. Not saying production will definitely improve, but some of these younger players are certainly going to be more comfortable with the ball in their hands earlier in their careers.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:23 am to TeddyPadillac
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