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Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:02 am to saints5021
1 year guys don't make sense, would rather save the cap room and not make the playoffs, and keep the pick in the lottery next year.
4 years doesn't make sense unless your goal is to make the finals in three seasons with that player being your 3rd best player. Probably unrealistic.
That leaves the 2-3 year guys, can't really afford Paul, I would prioritize shooting which means I would hold my nose and choose Hardaway or Batum. Both would only make sense if they help support playoff trips to gain postseason experience for the young guys.
4 years doesn't make sense unless your goal is to make the finals in three seasons with that player being your 3rd best player. Probably unrealistic.
That leaves the 2-3 year guys, can't really afford Paul, I would prioritize shooting which means I would hold my nose and choose Hardaway or Batum. Both would only make sense if they help support playoff trips to gain postseason experience for the young guys.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:02 am to saints5021
Most of these are expensive as hell, which you won’t get proper value to eat, or the teams don’t have the right assets to trade out.
Ex - Washington has their own firsts but little else and I don’t see an interim GM sending out future firsts to dump Mahinmi.
Ex - Washington has their own firsts but little else and I don’t see an interim GM sending out future firsts to dump Mahinmi.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:06 am to saints5021
Some team will make a push to get a free agent and have to shed some salary (and future picks) to make the money work.
That being said, I don’t want a 4 year bad contract. 3 maybe. 2 year bad contract, okay. 4, No!
That being said, I don’t want a 4 year bad contract. 3 maybe. 2 year bad contract, okay. 4, No!
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:11 am to saints5021
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Blake Griffin - 3 years, 100 million
I think he would be fun. He apparently loves shooting in the Blender he hit like 7 3's against us last year.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:17 am to teke184
It also doesn’t have to be giant contracts, we could also get some smaller contracts that teams that are right on the edge of signing a FA need to dump, or on the edge of luxury tax. Then still have some leftover to target mid-level FAs
For example, I could see Orlando moving John Isaac over Gordon in order to get enough to resign vucevic. Or looking at being a dumping place for OKC’s smaller guys like Roberson rather than Adams. Maybe we can pry Richardson out of Miami or take a flyer on Monk from Charlotte. Portland is up against the cap, would they be willing to move Harkless for cap relief?
Teams over the cap to target:
OKC, Miami, POR, GSW, DET
Teams on the edge looking to make room for FA:
LAC, CHA, ORL, PHI, MIL
Will be interesting to see where we go from here
For example, I could see Orlando moving John Isaac over Gordon in order to get enough to resign vucevic. Or looking at being a dumping place for OKC’s smaller guys like Roberson rather than Adams. Maybe we can pry Richardson out of Miami or take a flyer on Monk from Charlotte. Portland is up against the cap, would they be willing to move Harkless for cap relief?
Teams over the cap to target:
OKC, Miami, POR, GSW, DET
Teams on the edge looking to make room for FA:
LAC, CHA, ORL, PHI, MIL
Will be interesting to see where we go from here
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:37 am to saints5021
I don’t want anything to do with any deals past two years, really. Certainly not in FA signings but preferably not in taking bad assets either. Next offseason has practically no FAs, but the next (2021) is pretty loaded. I think for now the plan should be, spend the next two years developing the young core and then try to make a splash in 2021. So we need to try not to cut into that 2021 cap as much as possible.
Obviously this plan could shift depending on how our young player development goes, but I think something like this should be what we’re looking at with what we have now.
Obviously this plan could shift depending on how our young player development goes, but I think something like this should be what we’re looking at with what we have now.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:52 am to Rand AlThor
I hope we target another wing. It is great to have Ingram now, but he is a RFA and we have nothing behind him.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:00 am to Epic Cajun
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Steven Adams - 2 years, 53 million
There is no way OKC breaks up the Westbrook/George/Adams core before the end of Adams' contract. It just isn't going to happen.
And we need spacing on this team big time, not a traditional C who can't shoot. Adams does a lot very well, but his skillset does not match our needs.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:03 am to saints5021
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The hope is you take on a bad contract attached to a playable player. SoLo is not a playable player, so he was just a black hole.
Or take a shite player on a shite contract that nets you a valuable asset, like draft picks.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:05 am to touchdownjeebus
Any thoughts on Jeff Teague?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:14 am to LosLobos111
Just added Teague to the list...would be a good get, but not sure if Pacers would move off of him.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:14 am to saints5021
Ain't want none of this.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:17 am to saints5021
I love Gallo, but I'm not intrigued by anyone else on your list
This is how I'm looking at our current situation.
We're not going to compete for a championship right now. But for now, you want to build culture. For now, you want to make the playoffs, at least for Jrue. For now, you want to surround your young guys with great veterans. BUT you don't want to strap your cap down the line.
this is my formula = leadership + talented vet that helps us compete + short-term contract (2-3 years)
for example, Kevin Love & Blake Griffin aren't the worst, they allow us to compete now & I think both would be solid leaders, but those are massive contracts & have a lot of years left. If I was going to take max money, I want Al Horford because I think he'd help us compete & would be a great leader for the young guys. But I don't think a max player is a smart use of our cap space & I suggest we'd be a top destination for him. Gallo is a good player, don't know about his leadership, but he did play on a great team in the LAC. He helps us compete and he's on short-term money.
This is how I'm looking at our current situation.
We're not going to compete for a championship right now. But for now, you want to build culture. For now, you want to make the playoffs, at least for Jrue. For now, you want to surround your young guys with great veterans. BUT you don't want to strap your cap down the line.
this is my formula = leadership + talented vet that helps us compete + short-term contract (2-3 years)
for example, Kevin Love & Blake Griffin aren't the worst, they allow us to compete now & I think both would be solid leaders, but those are massive contracts & have a lot of years left. If I was going to take max money, I want Al Horford because I think he'd help us compete & would be a great leader for the young guys. But I don't think a max player is a smart use of our cap space & I suggest we'd be a top destination for him. Gallo is a good player, don't know about his leadership, but he did play on a great team in the LAC. He helps us compete and he's on short-term money.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:28 am to LosLobos111
I had liked the idea of Teague earlier this offseason.
At this point, though, I am more interested in front court players than another guard.
If we are just eating his $18m expiring deal in exchange for assets, I’m OK with it provided it doesn’t cost us a big man in some form or fashion.
At this point, though, I am more interested in front court players than another guard.
If we are just eating his $18m expiring deal in exchange for assets, I’m OK with it provided it doesn’t cost us a big man in some form or fashion.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:29 am to saints5021
Pacers?
Unless he moved last night, Teague is a Timberwolf.
Unless he moved last night, Teague is a Timberwolf.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:31 am to The Last Coco
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There is no way OKC breaks up the Westbrook/George/Adams core before the end of Adams' contract. It just isn't going to happen.
Check this out.
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And we need spacing on this team big time, not a traditional C who can't shoot. Adams does a lot very well, but his skillset does not match our needs.
I don't think this team is contending in the next 2 years. Adams can help develop both Hayes and Zion. IMO, that matters more than fit. We can still land another stretch 4/5.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:35 am to saints5021
Has Kris Dunn not amounted to much?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:36 am to The Last Coco
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There is no way OKC breaks up the Westbrook/George/Adams core before the end of Adams' contract. It just isn't going to happen.
They put him on the block for a reason. He got abused in the Portland series. If you have a big that cannot guard the step back 3 on a pick and roll on defense and can't space on offense, he is going to get played off the court in the playoffs.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:41 am to Epic Cajun
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I don't think this team is contending in the next 2 years. Adams can help develop both Hayes and Zion. IMO, that matters more than fit. We can still land another stretch 4/5.
I don't think we are contending for 2 years so let's build in a really inefficient manner? You know who can develop Hayes and Zion? Our coaches.
Investing $25M/yr in a traditional center with how the NBA is developing is signing Asik all over again. If we bring in Adams, then we develop Hayes/Zion to beocme comfortable playing with a traditional center. I think that it forms bad habits and is not something we want to do.
Also if Adams ends up a huge locker room presence/mentor for those guys, what do you do with him in 2 years? Just let him walk? Or pay him money as his skills become less and less useful.
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