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re: Bad contracts that we can trade for and get assets
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:21 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:21 am to TeddyPadillac
I think Ibaka would be a nice fit with Zion and Ingram in the front court.
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:21 am to TeddyPadillac
I thought the second year you were in tax incurred it
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:22 am to Pelefraan 1
Nope, it is like 3 of 4 or 4 of 5. And based on what I am seeing, they were below the tax threshold for 2017-2018.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:23 am to teke184
So no pressing need to dump Ibaka then?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:26 am to Pelefraan 1
The pressing need is that you don't need him. Ibaka is redundant and his money can either be spent elsewhere or can be used to stay below the cap.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:26 am to teke184
correct.
as i said, warriors and thunder are the only in the repeater territory.
Only other team that could be that area would be Cleveland, but they aren't going to be a tax team obviously.
The Raptors have only been a tax team once in the last 4 years, and that was this past year.
It's rare teams stay in the tax by the time the season ends. There's only been a handful of teams in it over the last few years, and it's teams like the Warriors and Cavaliers who were in it a lot b/c they were championship level teams. Any other team might go in the tax for a year b/c of bad contracts, and get out of it, like Washington or Portland. The Thunder are a different animal, and need to make some big decisions soon.
as i said, warriors and thunder are the only in the repeater territory.
Only other team that could be that area would be Cleveland, but they aren't going to be a tax team obviously.
The Raptors have only been a tax team once in the last 4 years, and that was this past year.
It's rare teams stay in the tax by the time the season ends. There's only been a handful of teams in it over the last few years, and it's teams like the Warriors and Cavaliers who were in it a lot b/c they were championship level teams. Any other team might go in the tax for a year b/c of bad contracts, and get out of it, like Washington or Portland. The Thunder are a different animal, and need to make some big decisions soon.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:26 am to Pelefraan 1
Not that I see.
He is on an expiring deal and, unless they were above the threshold for a few years before 2017-2018, they aren’t in danger of immediately hitting the repeater.
Their problem would be signing a ton of long term deals now that will clearly put them in the repeater, meaning the need to dump Ibaka or Powell to edge below the tax apron becomes important. And Ibaka is paid far more and on a shorter contract than Powell.
He is on an expiring deal and, unless they were above the threshold for a few years before 2017-2018, they aren’t in danger of immediately hitting the repeater.
Their problem would be signing a ton of long term deals now that will clearly put them in the repeater, meaning the need to dump Ibaka or Powell to edge below the tax apron becomes important. And Ibaka is paid far more and on a shorter contract than Powell.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:30 am to TeddyPadillac
Hence the Thunder probably strip-mining the team soon.
Westbrook and PG13 are going nowhere, so Adams, Schroeder, Andre Robinson, Patrick Patterson, and/or Jerami Grant could probably be had for pennies on the dollar.
Boston is apparently sniffing around Adams.
Westbrook and PG13 are going nowhere, so Adams, Schroeder, Andre Robinson, Patrick Patterson, and/or Jerami Grant could probably be had for pennies on the dollar.
Boston is apparently sniffing around Adams.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:41 am to teke184
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He is on an expiring deal and, unless they were above the threshold for a few years before 2017-2018, they aren’t in danger of immediately hitting the repeater.
They will have salaries of at least $20m over the tax. That means that will cost them $65M at least in tax. So Ibaka's contract actually costs them over $60M. Is he that critical to them winning a championship?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:46 am to TeddyPadillac
Problem becomes “If you dump Ibaka, what replaces him?”
They aren’t just dropping Ibaka as a pure tax dump. They have to bring in someone else to help take his minutes.
They wouldn’t be looking at $60m of tax if they dump Ibaka but they probably still pay about $20-30m in tax because replacing him will probably take a $10m player.
They aren’t just dropping Ibaka as a pure tax dump. They have to bring in someone else to help take his minutes.
They wouldn’t be looking at $60m of tax if they dump Ibaka but they probably still pay about $20-30m in tax because replacing him will probably take a $10m player.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:48 am to teke184
They can sign a Diallo type to replace his minutes...they have plenty of front court depth.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:48 am to teke184
Of course they would have to replace him, but they could do that with a ring chasing vet for the minimum.
THey expect OG to help fill the minutes at the 4 as well, who was hurt for much of the playoffs.
THey expect OG to help fill the minutes at the 4 as well, who was hurt for much of the playoffs.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:49 am to saints5021
Kemba is 100% a max guy. 25.6 PTS / 4.4 TRB / 5.6 AST is def a max player especially when teams have money like they do now. Im not saying we should exactly "wait" on free agents but there will be a lot of teams spending big money fast. If we make our moves on that second round of signings we may be able to get 2-3 good players in the 12-15 range instead of 1-2 in the 18-22 range.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:18 am to Dantheman504
Kemba is putting up great numbers, but is he a franchise needle mover? He will be making the same as Kawhi.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:29 am to saints5021
Kemba’s problem is a shite supporting cast IMHO.
Charlotte was trying to fix that at the deadline but they got into a pissing contest over Marc Gasol that saw Gasol sent to Toronto instead.
IIRC, Gasol got pulled from a game as to not get him injured and impact a trade. Charlotte then started lowballing Memphis, thinking they had decided they wanted the trade badly.
Charlotte was trying to fix that at the deadline but they got into a pissing contest over Marc Gasol that saw Gasol sent to Toronto instead.
IIRC, Gasol got pulled from a game as to not get him injured and impact a trade. Charlotte then started lowballing Memphis, thinking they had decided they wanted the trade badly.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:29 am to saints5021
Of course not but if you are a shitty Charlotte team do you let your only star walk or pay him? Its not just about the individual players worth for the team. If Charlotte knows that no star is going to come their you pay them just like every other team and then try to build around them in the future. If that doesnt work then you try and make a trade. Teams that don't have star players or won't attract the best of the best will always overpay for the next best thing. And this year a lot of teams have cap space so that is inevitable. You can't look at just player A and B and say oh this one is worth more. Charlotte either has no superstar with a bunch of money or 1 superstar and a chance to build from it. It's an easy decision.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:39 am to Dantheman504
Was listening to NBA radio this morning and one of the analysts said, "You know where I would love to see Gordon Hayward next year? New Orleans."
His co-host then says, "Are you giving up Jrue Holiday to get him?"
No, bozo. How can you be that bad at your job?
His co-host then says, "Are you giving up Jrue Holiday to get him?"
No, bozo. How can you be that bad at your job?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:20 pm to Spitting Venom
Maybe he is assuming Ainge’s mindset.
If Ainge won’t gamble on PG13, Kawhi, or AD, I don’t see him spending his stash of picks to sell low on Hayward.
If Ainge won’t gamble on PG13, Kawhi, or AD, I don’t see him spending his stash of picks to sell low on Hayward.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:30 pm to teke184
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:30 pm to LosLobos111
Im sick of hearing about Ainge, hbu
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