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Are you watching the Sacramento Kings? That should be us this year

Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:56 am
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:56 am
We interviewed the wrong GS assistant. Should have hired Mike Brown. LINK / Instead we get Monty Williams 2011 system and our GM sits on his hands on the trade deadline when it started going downhill.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 10:58 am
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:07 am to
We don't have a Sabonis or a loaded roster of shooters..
Posted by MartinVanNostrand
Member since Mar 2018
144 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:07 am to
I’m glad Mike Brown is doing well, but let’s not act like he was anywhere near a sure thing. When you have Kobe or Lebron almost every year, it’s tough to attribute the success to the coach
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:23 am to
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We interviewed the wrong GS assistant. Should have hired Mike Brown.


I guarandamntee you nobody thought that was the direction the Pels should go at the time. Brown was seen kind of like Uncle Al before he was hired. A good assistant but not really a good HC because his only success came with LeBron. He's also a coach that Griff has fired before.

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As it became clear within the Cavaliers organization that David Griffin was going to keep his job as general manager, the concern then shifted to how well Griffin and Mike Brown could coexist in a general manager/head coach relationship.

The answer was delivered on Monday in one stunning announcement: Griffin is staying, but the coach is gone. Again.

LINK /


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our GM sits on his hands on the trade deadline


What trade do you think they should have made? Brooklyn wouldn't trade Claxton to Toronto and turned down 4 1sts for Bridges. Toronto went from seller to buyer after nobody would meet their exorbitant price. Should the Pels have given up 2 1sts, one of them unprotected for Bogdonavic? Because that's what it would have taken for him. You would also have had to give up 2, maybe even 3 1sts to beat what the Lakers gave Utah to get Beasley and Vanderbilt. People bitch and moan about that trade like the Jazz did the Lakers a solid, but Utah got what they believe is a top 10 pick and the got off of Conley's salary next year. 1 1st and our expendable players for Vanderbilt/Beasley would not have beaten the Lakers offer.

It takes 2 to tango, and the trade deadline dynamics have changed a lot with very few sellers. I'm not giving the FO a pass, we all knew these were problems going into the season, but I also think fans cared about the results of this season a lot more than the Front Office did. Not saying the team wanted to be a bubble play in team, just that they look like they've been keeping the powder dry and didn't think this was the time to spend, which isn't necessarily crazy.

Imagine if they'd have shown that restraint the first few years instead of spending assets chasing stop gap centers to try and be competitive rather than taking their lumps and growing assets like OKC did. It's been pointed out before, if we hadn't made those trades for Favors and Adams, then maybe the Pels are in a position to grab Jarret Allen instead of the Cavs. Just one more thing Griff's mismanagement gave to the Cavs that could have been the Pels.

So no, I am not bothered that they didn't overpay for a non star player at the deadline just to make this season better. Especially since they already knew if Zion was coming back this season, it wouldn't be until the very end.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:46 am to
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Should have hired Mike Brown

And we also should’ve drafted perfectly, since we’re arguing with the benefit of hindsight.

The Kings have had healthy stars for a whole season. The Pels haven’t. And that’s the difference.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1772 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:50 am to
Some fans are comfortable being mediocre, others aren’t. Draft picks when you have a talented team with several players on rookie contracts are dumb to hold onto. When the Lakers made that trade, they also retained the bird rights to everyone they got, which makes it much easier to bring everyone back next year.

I don’t think Griffin has any idea what this teams needs to take the next step, and I don’t trust him either. 4 straight losing seasons should get anyone fired.

The roster Griffin inherited is better than what we have now after 4 years.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110626 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:52 am to
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Should have hired Mike Brown
Is that what you were arguing for at the time?
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6530 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:56 am to
the Kings are a flash in the pan. They don't really have any "stars." Sabonis and Fox are nice players. Maybe in the same sphere as CJ and BI, but you need at least one superstar to win.

We have Zion, they have no one close to that level and it will be exposed when they make the playoffs.

Guys like Malik Monk, Huerter, etc. won't be shooting 45% from 3 when teams actually play D.

They won't make it out of round 1.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:33 pm to
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They don't really have any "stars." Sabonis and Fox are nice players.


Both of these guys will get mvp votes lol



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the Kings are a flash in the pan.


Such a weird flex, considering most pels fans are striving just to make the playoffs
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6530 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Such a weird flex, considering most pels fans are striving just to make the playoffs



Just because we suck doesn't make the Kings good.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13530 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Some fans are comfortable being mediocre, others aren’t. Draft picks when you have a talented team with several players on rookie contracts are dumb to hold onto. When the Lakers made that trade, they also retained the bird rights to everyone they got, which makes it much easier to bring everyone back next year.

I don’t think Griffin has any idea what this teams needs to take the next step, and I don’t trust him either. 4 straight losing seasons should get anyone fired.

The roster Griffin inherited is better than what we have now after 4 years.



You missed the entire point of Atl's post. Sure, we have a ton of assets, but trading them just for the sake of trading them makes no sense at all.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Just because we suck doesn't make the Kings good.


After 70 games, you are what your record is
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30162 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:04 pm to
It doesn't matter who coaches or plays for this team. It's a cursed organization.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10170 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

We have Zion
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

I’m glad Mike Brown is doing well, but let’s not act like he was anywhere near a sure thing. When you have Kobe or Lebron almost every year, it’s tough to attribute the success to the coach


I thought it was the Splash brothers not Kobe and Lebron . To be fair so did Willie. One coach is progressing the other is regressing.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:42 pm to
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Just because we suck doesn't make the Kings good.


Your record says what you are!

Surely we can’t lose to the Rockets tonight? Right?
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6530 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:46 pm to
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After 70 games, you are what your record is



And I'm saying the Kings are a fine regular season team that will completely wilt in the post season as defenses tighten.

We'll see who's right.

I still think it's going to be Denver or Golden State. I hate to say it, but the Lakers are probably the third best team in the West now.

Memphis, the Cippers, Kings, etc. are posers.

With a healthy KD, I'll throw the Suns in the contenders tier.
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:48 pm to
Better hope to God you win tonight!
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Better hope to God you win tonight!


You aren't a fan of the team?

You post on here a lot. Are you actively rooting against us? Who is your team?
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
2531 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:47 pm to
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You aren't a fan of the team? You post on here a lot. Are you actively rooting against us? Who is your team?


Are you a fan of mediocrity? Because I’m sick of it. Year after year, The Bristow Era, The Bowers era, The Demps era, and now the Griff. Era.
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