Ainge resigning is a lesson for the Pellies and their "war chest"

Agreed. We need to go the Philly Route.

Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris with a bench of Dario Saric, Reddick, Shamet. That team was stacked in 2019-20 if they had a competent coach. One lucky shot away from the Finals.

If they kept the same team in tact, they definitely be the second best team right now competing with the Nets

AD, Kawhi, Harden, Butler, George, maybe CP3.

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Everyone was saying having quality vets now wasn't on Zions timeline, well folks, Zions timeline is NOW and we should do what we need to do to put a team around him. Use the picks to get vets, no way we can utilize them all.

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Just got to find the right ones that fit.

Boston tried it with Irving, Hayward and Walker. That didn’t work out at all for them.

But if you have a disgruntled star (Kawhi, George, Davis, Butler, Paul, Harden), that’s when you got to aim for them.

And I think that shouldn’t be lost here either.

Boston looks A LOT different if

1.) Hayward didn’t have one of the most gruesome fluke injuries this side of Paul George and hasn’t been the same since

2.) Kyrie hadnt gone full third eye flat earth nutter once he got to Boston and became a toxic presence, then bolted to BRK to be toxic there until KD got better(and now is just a mercurial shite stirrer who will randomly take months off to walk the earth, or whatever the frick weird Kyrie shite he did)

I won’t say Ainge didn’t get too stingy at times, and continued up to this season in refusing to go get Harden, but there is a very realistic alternate timeline where Boston looks dynastic right now.

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AD, Kawhi, Harden, Butler, George, maybe CP3.

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Given what we’ve learned about Rich Paul(but always suspected), and AD’s side job as Mr, Glass, passing on AD was probably the right move.

Same with Paul George.

The rest are legit screw ups to one degree or another.

And while you say maybe CP3, he probably would be the most complimentary player to that roster. Health, like now, would be the biggest question mark.

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But that's another lesson for us now: don't bring in a weird locker-room cancer to lead your team.

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Sure, but up to that point Kyrie wasn’t known as a cancer.

It seemed like the chip went to his head and he started really diving into all the weird mysticism shite and stuff. And took to a leadership role terribly.

Kyrie is one of the trades I don’t really hold over his head.

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picks he accumulated did not actually amount to anywhere near the perceived value at the time.

Ainge always felt like he had to get the best part of a deal and over-valued his assets to a degree where any deal for a star would be trade rape. We can't have the same mentality and end up with a lot of potential that can't materialize over time (we literally can't use all of our picks unless we heavily invest in Euros who never come over)

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We can use our picks for trades or draft players. Its value for value, AD was gone, and Jrue wasnt going to resign, no reason not to have all the picks. You dont let these guys go for nothing.

And, Ainge’s plan works out just fine if Kyrie/Kemba works out he just had bad luck. Ainge is 62, and this is a pretty common retirement age for folks. Youre making assumptions.

You compared Zion to Anthony Bennet/Oliver Miller. Still hilarious.

Edit: also GHayword injury, and Ainge had a heart attack in 2019. This isnt about basketball only he’s just getting old.

That is really just the model of the Lakers, Lebron teams, and the current Nets team.

Toronto, Golden State, Dallas, Miami (DWade/Shaq), and the Spurs won championships with a building model. I wouldn’t consider that a team up and vet minimum group of teams.

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No way someone would be that dumb.

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Way

IMO Ainge gets more hate than he deserves.

He did draft Brown and literally traded back and still got Tatum. He signed IT and no one expected him to play the way he did. Then he had the opportunity to trade IT for KYRIE! Hindsight is 20/20 so let’s be real anyone would have made that trade. IT was too much of a defensive liability. Kyrie was known for being clutch in the Finals. Why wouldn’t you go for that? Gordon Hayward wasn’t a bad signing either, his injury changed everything. They still went to the conference finals a bunch of times. And even after the Kyrie mess, he still was able to get another all star in Kemba.

As for the potential trades, AD’s dad said he wouldn’t play them, and Harden said he wanted to play for the Nets. Like I understand that maybe all the picks haven’t blown up, but you won’t hit on all them.

Let’s be real. If Zion + Ingram are our version of Tatum and Brown, and Griffin got us:

Solid role players from draft

3 All Stars level players (Irving, Walker, Gordon)

Got us to multiple Conference Finals

Idk about yall, but i’d be happy as that would be the most success we’ve had as a franchise. And would be enough to keep Zion here into his second max contract. Like it is hard to win a Title. Its about building a great franchise so you can get the most opportunities to win a title. And it not like the Celtics are bad now. They still have Tatum (who is a superstar) and Brown. A little retooling and they are a contender.