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AD for Tatum and all of Boston 1st round picks 2019 + 2020

Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Tigerrotti
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
646 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:31 pm
Right now Would you do it ? Would be 7 picks ...
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:36 pm to
Not legal but sure
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25540 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:44 pm to
That’s as realistic as solo for Durant.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:54 pm to
Not legal and it's inaccurate. Other than that though.....
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:12 pm to
No


This ain't the nfl where theres THAT much talent
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:19 pm to
I think people need to be realistic and accept that we are not getting Tatum. The package will probably end up for something like Rozier, Hayward, Brown and a late 1st. That still blows away the Lakers and anybody's elses packages..
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:23 pm to
NTNC - it’s back baby!!
Posted by Stxpel
Member since Oct 2018
118 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:26 pm to
How is rozier Hayward brown and pick better than anything else? No deal with Boston if Tatum isnt involved.

Is rozier a starting caliper pg?
What exactly are we getting in brown?
Same goes for Hayward.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:33 pm to
Yes, Rozier is a solid starting NBA PG. Brown is a borderline NBA all star. Hayward is a former all star who is rounding back into form. So you get 3 starters (if they don't flip Brown), 2 of which are borderline all stars, plus a pick that should be solid depth. Compare that we the Lakers offer of Ingram, Ball and Hart. How is that even close?
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:33 pm to
Yeah that’s a terrible package. Tatum is the cornerstone of the trade. Without him the deal goes nowhere.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:34 pm to
If you got an offer of kuzma and Ingram, Boston has to counter with Tatum.

Rozier and brown have regressed for whatever reason and Hayward has been bad.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5872 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:37 pm to
Not to mention Rozier is a restricted free agent so you know he’ll be looking to get paid this offseason.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61496 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:38 pm to
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I think people need to be realistic and accept that we are not getting Tatum.


The choice may be lose Tatum to get AD and keep Kyrie, or keep Tatum, don't get AD and lose Kyrie in FA while watching another Eastern Conference team get better than you by adding AD and Kyrie. Remember part of why we think a team like Chicago could be in play for AD if they get the 1st pick is because they'd bank on trading for AD and signing a max AD BFF like Kyrie. The same could be said of the Knicks.

If Ainge doesn't go all in on AD he could find himself falling even further down the Eastern Conference pecking order.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:39 pm to
I don't get the combo of Kuzma and Ingram. They are basically the opposite of each other, but play they same position (3/4 tweener) and aren't leaders. I watched Hayward lead the Jazz to the playoffs and even if he is never quite the same player, he should still be very good. People are way undervaluing Hayward on here. I just don't believe the Celtics will budge of Tatum and they don't need to..
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I don't get the combo of Kuzma and Ingram. They are basically the opposite of each other, but play they same position (3/4 tweener) and aren't leaders. I watched Hayward lead the Jazz to the playoffs and even if he is never quite the same player, he should still be very good. People are way undervaluing Hayward on here. I just don't believe the Celtics will budge of Tatum and they don't need to..


It's the fact that they're both wings and good assets, you're also thinking they both can't coexist which they can.

Other thing is, you get both, doesn't mean you keep both. One could be an asset to be traded for another equally good player at another position if so.

You're also overvaluing Hayward thinking he's pre-injury Hayward. He's a negative asset right now.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:47 pm to
I think you are overvaluing Davis and his impact on a team's future. People aren't going to like this, but Tatum has more value than Davis right now. He is ascending star, that is cheap, has a great pedigree and insanely talented at one of the hardest to fill positions in basketball. The Celtics are not building a future around Irving, its going to be around Tatum. If Irving accepts that, he will stay but Ainge will not budge on this. Nor should he. The Celtics struck gold with Tatum, he's not being traded..
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34309 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Hayward is a former all star who is rounding back into form


Hayward is a FORMER all-star who will likely never be remotely close to an All Star again who is on a huge contract. No thanks.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61496 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:55 pm to
I think you are overvaluing Tatum. Tatum is not better than Paul George or Jimmy Butler. Those 2 are no longer with their original teams because they weren't good enough to be the best player on their team.
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:55 pm to
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Even Jayson Tatum thinks they should trade him for AD. Tatum is a good player but he’s not in his prime yet. You have Kyrie in his prime so to win a championship you have to get players ready now.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 3:55 pm to
The value for Davis is what a team is willing to provide.

There's a reason why the recent leak for the LA Lakers is that "kuzma and Ingram are both available". They're desperate to get a superstar and will be, especially if they miss out this offseason.

You don't think there's other contention quality teams who won't call to offer in hopes to trade and keep AD?

Tatum is a top 5 "young player", but AD is a top 5 player right now while Tatum may never get there and become a PG or Butler at best. Danny won't lose a trade, but for Boston to get AD with the Lakers contending to trade for him as well, it will cost Tatum.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 3:57 pm
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