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re: #6 Pick Trade Possibilities
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:42 am to brmark70816
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:42 am to brmark70816
Whatever it would cost to move up isnt worth it. Save those assets for something else
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:45 am to GynoSandberg
Agree. There is a reason why everyone wants to move down.
Just take who falls. Or move it for a vet and later pick.
Just take who falls. Or move it for a vet and later pick.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:57 am to TigerinATL
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package Marion, Vasquez and the 2014 pick for a disgruntled star player.
One of those things is not like the other.
2014 is supposed to be a stacked draft. I wouldn't want to trade that pick without at least top 10 protection on it.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:00 am to Fun Bunch
Just an idea nobody is really exploring, so thought I would throw it out there. I really like McLemore and if Cleveland or Orlando get desperate to trade out, it'd be something to consider.. Say Noel goes 1st and Orlando is willing to trade the 2nd pick and Davis for the 6th pick and Roberts. Is that an attractive offer?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:08 am to teke184
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2014 is supposed to be a stacked draft. I wouldn't want to trade that pick without at least top 10 protection on it.
I'm talking about trading for a star level talent that needs a change of scenery. Maybe Kevin Love gets tired of losing for instance.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:12 am to brmark70816
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if Cleveland or Orlando get desperate to trade out
Orlando may be a possibility since they probably could get Burke at 6 if the knew we weren't taking him. No way Cleveland trades back that far and miss out on Porter.
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Orlando is willing to trade the 2nd pick and Davis for the 6th pick and Roberts
They'd probably want at least a Lopez level asset for the move.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:17 am to TigerinATL
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They'd probably want at least a Lopez level asset for the move.
With Afflalo locked up and young talent everywhere, other than PG. I'd figure they are more concerned about getting rid of contracts than adding back-ups. Would they even want Lopez?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:21 am to brmark70816
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Would they even want Lopez?
Probably not, our spare parts don't mix well with Orlando's needs, but you were talking about giving them Brian Roberts. As good as he played at the end of the season he's still more of a salary balancing trade filler than an actual trade asset.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:25 am to TigerinATL
I wouldn't do it, but Orlando would probably jump on 6 for 2 + Hedo (1 year, $12m). If we LOVED McLemore or Porter, I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:28 am to THRILLHO
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6 for 2 + Hedo (1 year, $12m)
We would have to REALLY love that player.
It would essentially mean we are not players at all in FA this year. We might be able to do something with Hedo at the deadline, but probably not. Expirings just haven't been traded for much in recent years.
So it would be another year in the tank, but we would have gotten the young player we wanted, have a high pick in the coveted 2014 draft, and lots of cap space then.
Meh.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:30 am to Fun Bunch
I think hedo's got around a $6 million buyout IIRC. Still puts you out of the running for "Ryan Anderson 2" though.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:34 am to TigerinATL
Hmm.. how about if we offered Gordon, a future 1st(lottery protected next year) and 6th pick for Afflalo, Davis and the 2nd pick? Would that be tempting for them?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:35 am to TigerinATL
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$6 million buyout IIRC
So we'd be essentially paying 6 million dollars and losing 6 in cap in order to move up 4 spots in a shitty draft.
Yeah...
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:37 am to brmark70816
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Hmm.. how about if we offered Gordon, a future 1st(lottery protected next year) and 6th pick for Afflalo, Davis and the 2nd pick? Would that be tempting for them?
Well, first of all, it would need to take place after the league year starts because you can't trade consecutive year draft picks, correct? So the pick would have been made and then the player traded later.
Second, no. They wouldn't be interested I don't think. Maybe if the lottery protection is Top 3 only or something. Maybe. But I doubt it.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:42 am to Fun Bunch
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Well, first of all, it would need to take place after the league year starts because you can't trade consecutive year draft picks, correct?
I thought the rule was against trading the pick away, not moving up or down. So they could trade away next year's to move up this year, cause they still had a pick this year (not consecutive years). I could be wrong though..
I just looked this up.. "Teams are allowed to trade future draft picks (first and second round) as they would current players. However, NBA teams are restricted from trading away future first-round draft picks in consecutive years"..
So that makes it sound like you can trade next years pick, to move up this year..
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 10:46 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:46 am to brmark70816
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I thought the rule was against trading the pick away, not moving up or down. So they could trade away next year's to move up this year, cause they still had a pick this year (not consecutive years). I could be wrong though..
Correct, as long as you have future 1sts, you can trade away, say, the 2014 and 2016 picks to move up in 2013.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 5:40 pm to teke184
The 2014 looks stacked now b/c of all the incoming Freshman rated so high.
But how many of those guys will bottom out? Or just choose to stay in school b/c they couldn't produce like expected?
Sure they have Smart, McAdoo (who declined), Robinson, etc... but look at what happened to the likes of Zeller or Sullinger. They were guaranteed top 5 stars, and they all fell way down as the season.
And then you have Wiggins, Randle, the Harrisons, etc.. well, what about Barnes, Muhammed, Bradley. All those other Freshman who were sure fire #1 talents, 1st team All-Americans. They play one year, don't ball out of control and are exposed. So while next year's draft should be better, I don't think it's a safe bet to be "loaded" after the top 3. At least in terms of "potential" and "development" but not in just sheer contributors like this one can have. So I'd trade next year's likely middle pick in a heartbeat for someone to help us play our way out the lottery next season.
But how many of those guys will bottom out? Or just choose to stay in school b/c they couldn't produce like expected?
Sure they have Smart, McAdoo (who declined), Robinson, etc... but look at what happened to the likes of Zeller or Sullinger. They were guaranteed top 5 stars, and they all fell way down as the season.
And then you have Wiggins, Randle, the Harrisons, etc.. well, what about Barnes, Muhammed, Bradley. All those other Freshman who were sure fire #1 talents, 1st team All-Americans. They play one year, don't ball out of control and are exposed. So while next year's draft should be better, I don't think it's a safe bet to be "loaded" after the top 3. At least in terms of "potential" and "development" but not in just sheer contributors like this one can have. So I'd trade next year's likely middle pick in a heartbeat for someone to help us play our way out the lottery next season.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:45 pm to Brow_City_Trick
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And then you have Wiggins, Randle, the Harrisons, etc.. well, what about Barnes, Muhammed, Bradley. All those other Freshman who were sure fire #1 talents, 1st team All-Americans. They play one year, don't ball out of control and are exposed. So while next year's draft should be better, I don't think it's a safe bet to be "loaded" after the top 3. At least in terms of "potential" and "development" but not in just sheer contributors like this one can have. So I'd trade next year's likely middle pick in a heartbeat for someone to help us play our way out the lottery next season.
I'm not really sure what I want to do, but I do think salivating over next year's draft when these kids haven't played a fricking lick of big time ball is sort of silly.
Posted on 5/25/13 at 6:17 pm to VOR
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I'm not really sure what I want to do, but I do think salivating over next year's draft when these kids haven't played a fricking lick of big time ball is sort of silly.
i second that emotion. hello shabazz muhammad
Posted on 5/25/13 at 6:23 pm to VOR
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I do think salivating over next year's draft when these kids haven't played a fricking lick of big time ball is sort of silly.
Yeah, I'm waiting for the next imbecile to say, "Let's tank for a top pick next year" and Ima frickin go off.
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