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re: Would Jimi Hendrix be a famous musician today?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:41 am to Cornbeef
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:41 am to Cornbeef
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Hence the musical fall to shite like WAP.
that and the way we consume music today.
I will admit to being curious what the hell a WAP was, so i listened to it on Spotify.
Boom, that's a stream. Multiply that by god only knows how many other people clicked on that shite out of curiosity, then shared with their buddies saying "would you listen to this crap!"
and BAM! industry thinks that's what America wants so they keep producing this shite.
hell as recently as the 90's when you had to walk into a record store, actually hand over some of your money, and purchase a physical copy of an album, there is no way that song makes it anywhere near that big.
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:42 am to Godfather1
quote:I doubt he called him that.
check out that big white boy who plays for Chicago
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:42 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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The white stripes - White Blood Cells.
The Beatles - Abbey Road
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:43 am to Nutriaitch
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hell as recently as the 90's when you had to walk into a record store, actually hand over some of your money, and purchase a physical copy of an album, there is no way that song makes it anywhere near that big.
Right. WAP is just a click bait song. If money came between you and WAP, WAP would go dry.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:51 am to Nutriaitch
Exactly, producing crap is cheap now with no financial risk. You don’t have to fill record stores with physical copies.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:55 am to redstick13
Gary Clark is a fantastic guitar player and woefully underappreciated. If he were around in the late 80s he would get the same recognition as guys like SRV and Robert Cray.
Starting in the late 1990s the music industry started focusing on teenage white girls and urban youth. So the beat was more important than the music overall. This was also about the time Swedish producers like Max Martin started to assert their influence.
Think about it, folks who know music know who Gary Clark,Jr and Angus King are, but I doubt few under 26 - 30 years old would know who he is. I think if Jimi were coming out today you might find him on some of the more specialized SiriusXM stations like the Spectrum or Lithium and you would have to discover him on YouTube by mistake. He would be regional and pigeonholed.
Starting in the late 1990s the music industry started focusing on teenage white girls and urban youth. So the beat was more important than the music overall. This was also about the time Swedish producers like Max Martin started to assert their influence.
Think about it, folks who know music know who Gary Clark,Jr and Angus King are, but I doubt few under 26 - 30 years old would know who he is. I think if Jimi were coming out today you might find him on some of the more specialized SiriusXM stations like the Spectrum or Lithium and you would have to discover him on YouTube by mistake. He would be regional and pigeonholed.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:01 am to KiwiHead
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I think if Jimi were coming out today you might find him on some of the more specialized SiriusXM stations like the Spectrum or Lithium
well Lithium is *only* 90s Alternative and Grunge, so if he came out today, he wouldn't be on there
***but they play multiple songs from Beasties Boys License to Ill. Which is Not 90's, not Alternative, and definitely not Grunge***
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:12 am to GumboPot
Are you kidding? When Lizzo is the benchmark for a star Hendrix would be a God.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:26 am to go_tigres
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When Lizzo is the benchmark for a star Hendrix would be a God.
actually good example.
that thing is a bigger star than lots of people infinitely more talented.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:31 am to redstick13
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Gary Clark Jr. is doing well for himself.
Yet is not famous like Hendrix. GCJ has a loyal following, and yes he does well for himself; however, go walk around and ask random people if they know him and you’ll find 1 in 10 who do. Then ask them about Hendrix.
It’s just not the right comparison
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:34 am to GumboPot
Jimmy enough with the guitar rifts already, we gotta get this song down to 3 minutes.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 11:34 am
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:47 am to GumboPot
I've always been surprised at how popular Hendrix is with mainstream music listeners.
His music and style is so wild and other worldly. I'm sure classic rock stations playing Hey Joe and Purple Haze nonstop over the decades has helped. But when you really drill down into his music, it's so eclectic and unique I'm always surprised that people like my mom would even be aware of him.
His music and style is so wild and other worldly. I'm sure classic rock stations playing Hey Joe and Purple Haze nonstop over the decades has helped. But when you really drill down into his music, it's so eclectic and unique I'm always surprised that people like my mom would even be aware of him.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:56 am to redneck hippie
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it's so eclectic and unique I'm always surprised that people like my mom would even be aware of him.
how old is your mom?
i mean if she was a teen/early 20 in that era, it's perfectly understandable.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:06 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Jimi would be a pretty mediocre professional player these days.
Yep.
He was innovative and almost every guitarist that followed owes him a debt of gratitude. But his offspring were much better guitarists than him.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:40 pm to GumboPot
I think he would still be well known and respected amongst musicians and a segment of the music purchasing world.
Would he have been as popular? Hard to say. It is undeniable that pure musicianship is not as marketable in the popular world as it was. Gotta have a look, a gimmick, and niche, something.
Of course Jimi did come into major popularity at a time when a tv show driven band was outselling the Beatles and the Stones and an animated band had a hit song.
Honestly, it's hard for me to imagine a world without Are You Experienced. What a fantastic debut album.
Would he have been as popular? Hard to say. It is undeniable that pure musicianship is not as marketable in the popular world as it was. Gotta have a look, a gimmick, and niche, something.
Of course Jimi did come into major popularity at a time when a tv show driven band was outselling the Beatles and the Stones and an animated band had a hit song.
Honestly, it's hard for me to imagine a world without Are You Experienced. What a fantastic debut album.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:55 pm to bazeball
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The industry is starved for creativity and talent.
Thats what happens when record companies post-napster realize its easier to push 1 easily manipulated ego maniac then having to deal with 4 or 6 separate musicians with their own lawyers.
Also the music is easier and cheaper to produce, instead of creating a unique prodution, no more tape, no more studio musicians for the most part..its also easier to sample existing art from the past and give a percentage of whatever royalties. This is accepted in today's society. Many movies and shows are nostalgia driven, remakes, reboots, etc..its like creativity stopped when everyone got a platform, and didn't have to earn it.
Its just how it is, and its not going to change anytime soon
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 7/1/22 at 4:55 pm to Nutriaitch
Interesting. Now that I'm thinking, how many superstar acts have gotten started in the last ten to fifteen years?
Posted on 7/2/22 at 7:33 am to GumboPot
Jim did things with music at a time when no one else was doing those things. Hard to compare across decades like that. Just like comparing older cars, athletes etc… with what you see today. Difficult if not impossible to make those comparisons fairly.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:04 am to GumboPot
Yes, greatest transcends time. Probably greater as Hendrix was gone ahead of stadium gigs taking off.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:15 am to redneck hippie
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But when you really drill down into his music, it's so eclectic and unique I'm always surprised that people like my mom would even be aware of him.
After 50 years of classic guitar rock, the phenomenon that Hendrix was gets lost in the shuffle. Just try to imagine it being 1969 and hearing Hendrix playing those acid rock riffs. It sounded like something coming down from outer space or another dimension. Just a decade earlier Elvis was singing Hound Dog. The time warp of style change that occurred in those ten years has always been mind boggling to me.
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