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re: Who was the most popular outlaw country singer at the height of its popularity?

Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:54 am to
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Probably Waylon, but Willie was close.

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For all pratical purposes, Waylon and Willie were Outlaw Country at its peak

Don't forget Bobby Bare
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 11:58 am to
If it weren't for him singing with others , I would not like a single Willie Nelson song.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:19 pm to
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Out of the following-
Merle
Waylon
DAC
Willie


How do you leave Johnny out of that? JR Cash was, without question, the most popular. He was arguably the biggest entertainer in the entire world at some points in the late 60s/early 70s.

If you don't include Johnny, then I think the clear-cut answer is Willie. However, this depends on if you mean "inside" or "outside" the movement itself. Willie certainly had the most crossover success and name recognition in the greater world. But Waylon probably had the most cred and popularity inside the smaller world of outlaw country.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
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DAC shouldn't be mentioned amongst the others imo.


Any idea what DAC's opinion on the matter is?
Posted by yallgood
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:24 pm to
Don't you think this Outlaw shite has gotten out of hand?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:27 pm to
Country DJs know that I'm an outlaw.

Willie Waylon and me...


I've always wondered if Willie and Waylon had discussions of the above and if they laughed at DAC over it.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:11 pm to
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JR Cash was, without question, the most popular.
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How do you leave Johnny out of that? J
that's why I left him out
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:32 pm to
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I've always wondered if Willie and Waylon had discussions of the above and if they laughed at DAC over it.


I actually saw a description/bio one time on one of the streaming services when I was listening to DAC. It said that he asked the rest of them if he could be in The Highwayman. Supposedly, Waylon's answer was, "No, David Allan Coe...you cannot."
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:33 pm to
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that's why I left him out
Got it. Then I'd have to say the clear answer is Willie.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:48 pm to
Look, I get that Waylon probably deserves more cred and is an absolute god within the movement. But the average Joe in 1975 certainly was more likely to know who Willie was than Waylon. (This is still very very true.)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:49 pm to
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JR Cash was, without question, the most popular.


Yeah, Hank Jr was way up there as well
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Yeah, Hank Jr was way up there as well


I view Bocephus' peak more towards the end of the movement - well when it got into crossover.

If you want THE classic song by him, Standing in the Shadows from 1966 still gives me chills. It's when he formally broke out of Poppa's shadow.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:08 pm to
Really? I learned of both because of the duo stuff and came away from it thinking Willie was damn lucky others let him singing with them.
Posted by SCwTiger
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:37 pm to
Willie was first and foremost a songwriter from the 50 - 60 era. He was only allowed to tag along with Waylon and Tompall because he always had the good weed.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:18 pm to
Waylon, hands down. Then Willie. Merle Haggard wasn't really "Outlaw Country". That was more the bunch hanging out in Austin/Luckenbach in the later 70's. Willie, Waylon, Tompall Glazer, Jerry Jeff, Billy Joe Shaver, Steve Young and to some degree Townes, Guy Clark and those guys. Hank Jr. was there. DAC was more on the coattails of it. Merle was around but was doing more of his own thing.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:15 pm to
It’s?
Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:00 pm to
Y'all are leaving somebody out :





Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:49 pm to
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David Allan Coe has the biggest hit of the group


Not even close. Willie, Waylon, Cash all had bigger hits than DAC. Way more.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:47 am to

OP asked for singers. Kristofferson was a great songwriter, and definitely was a part of the movement, but he's about as good of a singer as I am a golfer.
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