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re: When did country music /culture go to sh*t.

Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:26 pm to
Rascal Flatts
Big n Rich

There were others around this time. Early 2000s

Also what happened to good women country singers? They’ve disappeared. There were a ton in the 90s like Reba, Pam Tillis, Judds, Terri Clark, Martina McBride, Leanne Rimes. It’s like women stop pursuing that genre


Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:27 pm to
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Also what happened to good women country singers? They’ve disappeared. There were a ton in the 90s like Reba, Pam Tillis, Judds, Terri Clark, Martina McBride, Leanne Rimes. It’s like women stop pursuing that genre



Any that are successful move into pop full time

They can appeal to a broad audience and keep their female country audience. They probably never relied much on the male country audience to begin with, so losing them by going full pop isn't a big deal.
Posted by T
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:29 pm to
Faith Hill’s “This Kiss”. Before that song she had an accent and actually did country music. That song had a pop version and slightly less pop version. It was a hit on the country music charts and everybody tried to recreate that garbage. Around that same time Shania Twain started doing pop songs that got nonstop airplay on country radio as well. Next thing you know country radio was full of groups like Rascal Flatts.

Around 1998 country music started its steep decline to where it is today.
Posted by Mufassa
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:29 pm to
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A lot of purists thought the Outlaw movement ruined country music.

At times, Waylon’s band resembles a jam band. Far from the waltzy Hank Williams Sr. stuff. Hell WJ wrote songs responding to the people who badmouthed the Outlaw style and image.

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I agree the current genre mostly sucks, but nothing stays static

Well put. Music’s supposed to evolve. This last trend needs to die
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:29 pm to
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Kenny Chesney


Don't get this one. Chesney is really good!
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:30 pm to
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It’s like women stop pursuing that genre


My theory is that the women can make a lot more money going pop - see Taylor Swift. But the labels have steered them into godawful songs that either have barely understandable lyrics or are simply the female version of bro country.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:30 pm to
leave them broadway girls aloneeeee
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:33 pm to
"Garth Brooks did for country music what panty hose did for finger-fricking"
Waylon Jennings
Posted by daydranking
nunya
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:34 pm to
Modern music is just really formulaic now, especially if its on the radio
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Don't get this one. Chesney is really good!



Chesney and Paisley aren't the worst offenders (and Paisley is a genuine musical talent) - but they both participated heavily in the move toward selling tropes and bumper sticker slogans as country music. Which I would argue paved the way for what we see now - selling this generic crappy lifestyle country music over and over in repackaged form by inauthentic dudes.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Go check out Ryan Bingham. He’s fantastic


Agreed, however some of his old stuff is not available on Itunes and I can't find it anywhere. This includes the original version of South side of heaven.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Martina McBride


she's an example of what I blame garth for. She was a pretty, talented artist singing songs that were closer to traditional country music when she started. AS she gained success, she cut her hair and started singing songs about women's rights. Her schtick became more about societal issues than the regular good time music you'd hear from Patty Lovelace or Lorie Morgan. Shania and Faith evolved similarly.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Also what happened to good women country singers

Carrie Underwood and Miranda Lambert say hello.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Garth Brooks time frame.



i consider Garth Brooks the Obama of country music.

Garth was a little poppy, but still had some decent country roots. but his success ushered in the success of people like Chesney, Jason Aldean, FGL, etc..

Obama wasn't ridiculously woke and was actually barely left of center for the most part (in 2008 at least.) but his election ushered in a complete leftist lurch.


there's still some decent country out there, most of it just doesn't get airtime.

Zach Bryan
Stapleton
Whiskey Meyers
Shane Smith and the Saints
Colter Wall
Charley Crockett
Uncle Lucious
Ryan Bingham
Tyler Childers
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
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1989
bs morons. 89 was the beginning of country music peak years.
Posted by greenbean
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:36 pm to
When Hank Sr died.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:36 pm to
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Agreed, however some of his old stuff is not available on Itunes and I can't find it anywhere. This includes the original version of South side of heaven.



all of Bingham is on Spotify.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Keith Whitley



Would of been the next great one. And that voice.......
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Some say Johnny Cash ruined country.

Never heard this one. I am not a Cash fan but this seems silly.


You have to consider context. In the 50's this wild, drunk, pilled up, trouble maker was the icon of Country. All old people didn't want their kids looking up to this idiot. Its always about perspective.
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:39 pm to
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