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Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:44 am to Baloo
Well Kurt wore dresses and made out with Noveselic on stage... there needs to be an amendment for that 
edit: I had an old VHS copy of that doc, but when i last checked it was never released on DVD... Not sure if it has been now..
edit: I had an old VHS copy of that doc, but when i last checked it was never released on DVD... Not sure if it has been now..
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:44 am to Jester
It has, and fwiw, Mudhoney is still a great band putting out cool music.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:45 am to TigerRanter
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It has, and fwiw, Mudhoney is still a great band putting out cool music.
I prefer Meat Puppets covers to Kurt originals.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:46 am to Jester
quote:me too.
I prefer Meat Puppets covers to Kurt originals.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:49 am to TFTC
quote:It has, but it's OOP. Might be able to find it on YouTube.
Well Kurt wore dresses and made out with Noveselic on stage... there needs to be an amendment for that edit: I had an old VHS copy of that doc, but when i last checked it was never released on DVD... Not sure if it has been now..
Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:50 am to TigerRanter
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It has, and fwiw, Mudhoney is still a great band putting out cool music.
Finally! A fellow Mudhoney fan!
Nirvana may not have expected to be a crossover success, but they did court the mainstream to some degree (no one could have predicted they would get THAT huge). But Mudhoney actively worked to sabotage any mainstream success. Usually in very funny ways. (Contributing the new song "Overblown" to the Singles soundtrack is one my faves -- they were calling grunge overrated before anybody had really even heard of grunge)
Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:53 am to Baloo
One of my main memories of that documentary was Mark Arm's "Snotzi's" joke...
Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:54 am to Baloo
Green River needs a mention, as well.Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:57 am to TigerRanter
What happened when Nevermind came out was the equivalent of a nuclear bomb on the music industry. It was a massive shakeup they kicked off. Hair bands were popular and instantly became scorched earth and the subject of mass ridicule. Good music on the fringes got much more attention from the mainstream masses. Opened it up for "fringe" acts on big labels that were never thought of before, and yes copycats & people adjusting to cash in.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:00 am to TFTC
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After the aforementioned movement, they went to a "modern rock/alternative" format very similar to mainstream radio where you heard the same alternative hits 3/4 times a day... there was very little to no individuality to the DJs.
Don't disagree.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:23 am to TideHater
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I for one am glad Kurt painted his carpet with brain matter.
Well that's a shitty post.
But they helped mainstream grunge in the new "MTV era", KC was a great songwriter, and the mystery/conspiracies about his death propelled their music.
I enjoy some of their stuff.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:43 am to quail man
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kurt cobain killed himself. a cult following began.
they were already world famous two years before this occurred. I think what you meant to say is that Kurt's "legend" status was forever cemented in the fact that he died suddenly while still on top, as opposed to fading into oblivion as so many others do
As to the OP, as many others have pointed out, the thing that made them a "great" band was that they turned the music world on its head with one album. Whether you think the band played great music is a separate question
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:51 am to Feed Me Popeyes
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kurt cobain killed himself. a cult following began.
if anything, I believe this was detrimental to their legacy... I believe Nirvana (or Kurt solo) were destined for big things...
Now this event is lazily used, especially by people not around at the time, to dismiss an important band they don't particularly care for...
Posted on 12/17/12 at 12:20 pm to DeathValley85
Kurt Cobain was one hell of a song writer IMO. On the other hand he kinda blew at guitar but Dave Grohl's drum skills made up for it.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 4:13 pm to TFTC
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if anything, I believe this was detrimental to their legacy... I believe Nirvana (or Kurt solo) were destined for big things...
Now this event is lazily used, especially by people not around at the time, to dismiss an important band they don't particularly care for...
its an interesting debate. it seemed he was still on an upward trajectory. what we wont know is if there was going to be a turn downward where he wouldve tarnished his legacy had he not "gone out on top"
Anyone that thinks they are only big because of his death has apparently missed how massive their impact was even before it.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 4:20 pm to MontanaMax
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Kurt Cobain was one hell of a song writer IMO. On the other hand he kinda blew at guitar but Dave Grohl's drum skills made up for it.
great rock music doesnt have to be about the most technically sound and complex riffs though. what he seemed to lack in technical prowess (which often ill say kurts actual guitar ability is under rated by those that think that hes not good because a lot is easy to pick up) he made up for in a very good sense about what actually makes a good song and how his guitar fit into that. he had a great feel for music, which is hard to replicate.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 5:01 pm to NoSaint
quote:Sadly, I think this has happened to Billy Corgan.
what we wont know is if there was going to be a turn downward where he wouldve tarnished his legacy had he not "gone out on top"
From what I've seen, it doesn't seem that Nirvana would have gone on much longer as a band. I think he would've gone on to some type of solo career and still put out great music.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 5:06 pm to NoSaint
Nirvana Live at Reading is fantastic if you like nirvana. Not technically sound but just a great show when they were in their prime. I think his daughter had been born 9 days before they headlined that festival.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 5:16 pm to TigerRanter
I think they were done.
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