re: What is the best rap album of all time?

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What is the best rap album of all time?

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Trick question.

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metalfacedterrorist

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thanks for that thoughtful write-up. i'm very familiar with illmatic, but haven't heard madvilliany. i'll be checking it out this evening (especially since you "peer" it with deltron 3030).

i noticed that your polite, informative, well-written post was downvoted twice. if i hadn't read all the praise for carter V in another thread, i wouldn't have understood why. if you'd make a post breaking down of some of the "genius lyrical wordplay" of lil wayne, you'd be more popular.

OutKast- atlienz
Gza- liquid swords
Eminem- slim shady lp
OutKast- aquemini

License to Ill

Get Rich or Die Trying

ATLiens


HM: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

I really can't think of anything that approaches Aquemini and ATLiens. The Chronic is definitely tops for West Coast, but it just doesn't really transcend the genre like Outkast did.

Chronic

Illmatic is great but aquemini and atliens are tGOAT.

another great album that hasn’t been posted yet is Train of Thought by Kweli and Hi-Tek. Although it’s not on the same level as the previously mentioned.

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Can someone explain why jay z is not on any of these picks. no reasonable doubt? 

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I love Jay-Z, but his overall body of work is better than any one album. Reasonable Doubt was his best lyricism, but some of the beats don't stand out. The Black Album has the best beats, but lyrically it isn't very deep.

I will say, the second verse of D'Evils is my favorite rap verse ever. The wordplay and overall picture he paints is on another level.

"We used to fight for building blocks
Now we fight for blocks with buildings that make a killing
The closest of friends when we first started
But grew apart as the money grew, and soon grew black-hearted
Thinking back when we first learned to use rubbers
He never learned so in turn I'm kidnapping his baby's mother
My hand around her collar, feeding her cheese
She said the taste of dollars was shitty so I fed her fifties
About his whereabouts I wasn't convinced
So I kept feeding her money 'til her shite started to make sense
Who could ever forsee, we used to stay up all night at slumber parties
Now I'm trying to rock this bitch to sleep
All the years we were real close
Now I see his fears through her tears, know she's wishing we were still close
Don't cry, it is to be
In time, I'll take away your miseries and make 'em mine, D'Evils..."

Such an incredible verse on so many levels.