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re: The death of rock music in two senses

Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:40 pm to
I blame Skrillex.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:42 pm to
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I think you're the only BMTH fan on here so you know they're big right now. GVF and Ghost are both about to start arena headline tours. BMTH isn't far behind them.


BMTH is ahead of Ghost. I don’t know much about GVF. Problem with Ghost is their subject matter caps their ability to draw quite a bit I’d imagine.

BMTH is the one band I personally know of in my age range (I’m 32 I think they’re right at that as well idk 100% though) that I could see being a harder rock band that makes it to headliner status. Amo has some pretty non Rock sounding songs though, so their direction moving forward is going to be important. Oli has said though that he hopes Amo can bring newer fans into the older catalog and that type of rock in general. And to be fair, even he’s said rock is dead.

It is interesting. I think the industry really looks towards what those guys are doing and respects their grind. Oli was set to produce Limp Bizkit’s new album (he dropped out saying basically he was in over his head), and that’s a pretty big tip of the cap towards them.

I’m surprised more people aren’t into them. They have a very radio friendly sound, but do things incredibly well to present a different style of music. Their pacing in their songs is fantastic. Their use of classical instruments and electronica is really well done. Oli’s one of the best vocalists in the genre.

They played a concert at Royal Albert Hall in 2016 as a cancer benefit, and I still haven’t found another hard rock band that’s used a choir and full symphony for the entire show. One of their band members, Jordan Fish, was instrumental in the classical arrangements. There’s talent in that band for sure.

Here’s a link if anyone wants to check it out.

LINK

ETA: if anyone has any links to concerts from rock bands with symphonies, please link! The only ones I’ve found outside of BMTH are Metallica, Tears for Fears, Serj Tankian solo project, and for some shocking reason, Hoobastank.
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:54 pm to
There's so much great music now, and we have access to all of it at the click of a button. IDGAF who's selling the most or what's on the radio. I live in a city of about two million people, and I could go see a top shelf concert 3 nights a week while being picky if I wanted to. Please keep telling me how rock must is dead though.
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:54 pm to
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I blame Skrillex
That can be treated now
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39189 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:05 pm to
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Problem with Ghost is their subject matter caps their ability to draw quite a bit I’d imagine.

Hasn't hurt Kiss or Alice Cooper. They've toned down their sound with Prequelle to be more radio friendly and their live shows aren't overly satanic or anything like that. Tobias has great stage presence and is a real rock star too. They already played Barclay's Center and the LA Forum on their last tour and got big exposure from opening for Iron Maiden.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:17 pm to
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There's so much great music now
I could not disagree more.

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Please keep telling me how rock must is dead though.

Rock has been dead a while.
Posted by Tiger at Law
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
2990 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:22 pm to
That Royal Albert Hall recording is great. Lots of good music still but it doesn't make the radio. That is the decision of the suits and also more rock bands choosing to say F you to "radio friendly" ideas. We have the internet and satellite radio. If you want new rock in whatever genre you are into (on the heavier end I like Deftones to Wage War, Bad Omens, Currents, Make Them Suffer and plenty in between) there are plenty of easy roads to getting it besides some dopey local or nationally syndicated station.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:48 pm to
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I blame Skrillex.


My son was a fan of From First To Last in high school. Only reason I know who TF that is.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 2:26 pm to
Go to a queens of the Stone Age show and tell me rock music is dead
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141896 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 2:27 pm to
There are still ragtime bands playing
Posted by Sheftie
Member since Jul 2019
526 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Please keep telling me how rock must is dead though.



Are you being intentionally stupid. Please give us a list of all these phenomenal bands stopping by your little city multiple days a week. Links?

Theres a reason theres a mega jack off thread on here for the new Tool. a decent rock album nowadays is like throwing a meatball into a shark tank

Me personally, i spend a sad amount of time pondering the release of the new deftones album
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10922 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 4:19 pm to
Rock concert in the 70's.



Rock concert in 2019.





Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12721 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 4:27 pm to
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Hasn't hurt Kiss or Alice Cooper. They've toned down their sound with Prequelle to be more radio friendly and their live shows aren't overly satanic or anything like that. Tobias has great stage presence and is a real rock star too. They already played Barclay's Center and the LA Forum on their last tour and got big exposure from opening for Iron Maiden.


Man, I love Ghost. I am not a hater trust me. After seeing them at the Orpheum, I went however many days later the Mobile Alabama show was to see it again. The Orpheum show was one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to. BUT they have incense and all sorts of black mass themes in their lyrics and their presentation. I mean the dude comes out in priest robes waving around that chain with the incense attached.

There were people/clients/friends I would not talk about that concert too that I talk about music with because I could not explain the whole theme and message without them getting offended or wondering why I was so geeked to enjoy the hell out of a black mass themed show. I’m not a satanist either, but the whole presentation was so well done it comes at a cost. Kudos to them at least for not half assing it in this PC culture though.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141896 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Rock concert in 2019
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 5:51 pm to
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Rock concert in the 70's.


Watching ants play on a stage 150 yards away among 80,000 shirtless dudes sounds... cool?
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 6:17 pm to
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Rock concert in the 70's.


The only option to consume music in the 70’s were vinyl or live. So much more options these days.

Any artist mentioned in this thread can be accessed on my phone in a touch of a button for the cost of purchasing an album once a month.

It’s an unbelievable time for music and I’m grateful to be living in it.
Posted by Sheftie
Member since Jul 2019
526 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:01 pm to
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It’s an unbelievable time for music


Its an unbelievable time for accessibility to existing music yes. Its a dog shite time for actual music

Some 15 yr old somewhere got his first piece of pussy recently to 'old town road' playing in the background. He'll have to live with that the rest of his life
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141896 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:16 pm to
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Some 15 yr old somewhere got his first piece of pussy recently to 'old town road' playing in the background. He'll have to live with that the rest of his life
And he'll be nostalgic for it the rest of his life, the way 40 yr olds are now nostalgic for the "good rap" of the '90s
Posted by kale
Around
Member since Feb 2017
1254 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:59 pm to
Rock is dead and that’s a fact, majority rock fans 23 and under prefer bands from 90s on back that’s a fact. 00s just a hit a wall in quality and when you add in radio, pop culture starting away that leaves rock in the pitiful state it is now
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18648 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 3:50 pm to
Honestly between stuff like PUP and Jeff Rosenstock I think punk at least is very much alive
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