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re: The Best American Bands...Ever
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:33 am to beezylsu
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:33 am to beezylsu
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20. The Byrds
If you go to heaven when you die, the sound you’ll hear as you enter the pearly gates is Roger McGuinn’s 12-string Rickenbacker. Plus, without The Byrds, R.E.M. doesn’t exist and Bob Dylan doesn’t have one of his signature tracks re-imagined… for the better.
Mr. Tambourine Man was re-imagined for the better by The Byrds? Granted it's a good rendition, but what the frick! Dylan is one of if not the greatest song writer to ever come along and to say a cover of one of his songs by another band made the song better is retarded as shite.
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Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:36 am to redneck hippie
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you live in a box, dude? that statement is widely inaccurate.
Your tongue-in-cheek detector is wildly inaccurate.
UPDATE: you, along with several of your fellow posters, it appears.
This post was edited on 7/8/12 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:55 am to bobbyray21
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And since no more than eleven or twelve people worldwide have actually listened to the Beatles in the past 30 or so years, this statement is nigh irrefutable.
Nicely played, Marciano. Nicely played, indeed.
That's some funny sh!t right there. I'm detecting sarcasm because you can't possibly be this damn stupid.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:38 pm to beezylsu
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I don't think The Band counts since only Levon was American. If The Band did count they would be #1 on my list easily.
I thought about that. I realize that Robbie, Rick, Richard and Garth were Canadians but there music was as American as it gets. Plus they existed, as a band, almost soley in the US and made Woodstock their adopted home (long before the festival)
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:40 pm to bobbyray21
I would call pop a genre. But I have absolutely no interest in genre debates. The definitions are slippery and at the end of the day, meaningless. Feel free to think alt rock and indie rock are different and one is a genre and one isn't. I honestly do not care.
There is nothing less interesting and more fruitless than genre definitional debates. I stopped caring about that almost two decades ago. Define things as you wish.
There is nothing less interesting and more fruitless than genre definitional debates. I stopped caring about that almost two decades ago. Define things as you wish.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:42 pm to Marciano1
Where the frick is Ween!?
A few not mentioned I'd nominate:
Ween
Alice in Chains
The Eagles
Drive-By Truckers
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Uncle Tupelo (spawned Son Volt and Wilco)
A few not mentioned I'd nominate:
Ween
Alice in Chains
The Eagles
Drive-By Truckers
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Uncle Tupelo (spawned Son Volt and Wilco)
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:45 pm to kingbob
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I would nominate Chicago,
Early Chicago was great. No doubt. Later Chicago, minus Terry Kath....meh.
Also throw in Three Dog Night in that grouping as well. They had quite the run in the early/mid 70's.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:53 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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How can you metion the Stooges w/o mentioning the New York Dolls?
Because the Stooges were arguably the first punk band, released the defining album of the proto-punk era in Raw Power, and had perhaps the greatest frontman in American rock n roll in Iggy Pop. I like the Dolls, but they are essentially the dry run for the Sex Pistols, only in drag. The Dolls are pretty easy band to leave off the top 20 of all time, even though both Sylvain and Thunders are two of the godfathers of punk. But I actually think Thunders best work was his solo stuff. Thunders really is rock n roll to the core - he is either a cautionary tale or the greatest rock god to ever live. I'm not sure.
Oh, and Motley Crue is the band the got me into punk. I heard them and thought, "this is the worst shite I have ever heard in my life. There must be something else other than this stale glammy crap that the radio is shoving down my throat out there." And indeed there was. Words do not describe how much I hated Motley Cure and really that whole 80s hair rock era. It was awful to live through. I hated 80s hair metal so much, it made me hate 70s glam rockers like T Rex, just because my fist exposure to it was through those 80s bands I truly despised.
As an adult, I don't mind them as much. I still think they stink, but there's a certain nostalgia effect that makes me tolerate them. It does remind me of my middle and high school parking lots.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:57 pm to Baloo
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Oh, and Motley Crue is the band the got me into punk. I heard them and thought, "this is the worst shite I have ever heard in my life. There must be something else other than this stale glammy crap that the radio is shoving down my throat out there." And indeed there was. Words do not describe how much I hated Motley Cure and really that whole 80s hair rock era. It was awful to live through. I hated 80s hair metal so much, it made me hate 70s glam rockers like T Rex, just because my fist exposure to it was through those 80s bands I truly despised.
There are a few songs I like but generally hated the hair band thing. It pushed me more toward harder, darker metal.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I readily concede Motley Crue is the best band of the Sunset Strip scene until Guns n Roses. And if I disliked the best band, it was pretty clear I wasn't gonna like bands like Cinderella. Which pushed me to find other stuff.
So, thanks Motley Crue.
So, thanks Motley Crue.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:07 pm to ulsaint
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Uncle Tupelo
Is one of my favorites of all time... they played the old Art bar on Highland Rd.
I would also put X in the debate, but understand why they arent...
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:11 pm to Baloo
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There is nothing less interesting and more fruitless than genre definitional debates. I stopped caring about that almost two decades ago. Define things as you wish.
I kinda agree with you... but you invited it with this statement...
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Alt rock and indie rock are the same thing. Just we called indie rock alt rock in 1995. Now we call it "indie".
I never intended to debate it, just state my views on it...
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:14 pm to Baloo
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I would call pop a genre. But I have absolutely no interest in genre debates. The definitions are slippery and at the end of the day, meaningless.
Agree
Posted on 7/8/12 at 4:51 pm to Baloo
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Oh, and Motley Crue is the band the got me into punk. I heard them and thought, "this is the worst shite I have ever heard in my life.
I was in high school during the disco years and got into punk/new wave in college. I didn't think anything could be worse than disco until I heard the "hair bands."
Posted on 7/8/12 at 9:19 pm to TFTC
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but you invited it with this statement...
Sorry. That statement was meant to avoid the genre debate. It's all the same to me. I'm a big tent guy. I view hip hop as just part of rock n roll, for example. I'm perfectly comfortable calling Jay-Z a rock artist.
My bad. My statement was meant to nip the alt-rock/indie rock distinction in the bud. I view them as the same thing, really. But that goes back to my whole big tent theory of pop music.
Ironically, I love regionalism.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 9:23 pm to Marciano1
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That's some funny sh!t right there. I'm detecting sarcasm because you can't possibly be this damn stupid.
Your sarcasm detector is correct. I was laying it on pretty thick, and so I'm quite surprised a handful of others thought it was meant to be taken at face value. It definitely wasn't.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 9:40 pm to Baloo
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Sorry. That statement was meant to avoid the genre debate. It's all the same to me. I'm a big tent guy. I view hip hop as just part of rock n roll, for example. I'm perfectly comfortable calling Jay-Z a rock artist.
My bad. My statement was meant to nip the alt-rock/indie rock distinction in the bud. I view them as the same thing, really. But that goes back to my whole big tent theory of pop music.
Ironically, I love regionalism.
I'm okay laying any and all genre debates to rest.
Slightly tangential story:
I've always really liked the way EDM sounded, but it wasn't until maybe two or so years ago that I started really getting into it and actively seeking new stuff and targeting certain artists.
A friend of mine who is REALLY into EDM -- she's an upper level associate at a prestigious law firm by day, and a hardcore raver by night and weekend...she's one of a kind -- at one point tried to explain EDM sub-genres to me. Everything she said was gibberish to me. (house, progressive house, acid house, electro house, dr. gregory house, etc.). I just occasionally nodded my head like I was following.
But it wasn't until she tried to explain to me that there was actually an EDM* sub-genre called "techno" that I had to basically tell her to shut the frick up. Just an absolute clusterfrick.
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*Which, up until two years ago, I referred to as "techno".
Posted on 7/8/12 at 9:48 pm to bobbyray21
I didn't even know we called it EDM now. I saw the thread and I thought it was referring to a band I had never heard of. I just call it all electronica and let the chips fall where they may.
Yeah, I used to be in the punk scene, and there's only so many arguments you can listen to about what is actually punk before you want to stab people. And that's before you get into the five million subgenres of hardcore.
Yeah, I used to be in the punk scene, and there's only so many arguments you can listen to about what is actually punk before you want to stab people. And that's before you get into the five million subgenres of hardcore.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:21 pm to ThePenIsMightier
An ok list. I think you gotta put either the Jackson 5 or the Temptations though.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 11:07 pm to boogerman77
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Mr. Tambourine Man was re-imagined for the better by The Byrds? Granted it's a good rendition, but what the frick!
If the Byrds hadn't recorded that song, there wouldn't be 1000 people in the US that ever heard it. Dylan wrote a great piece here but his version with the umpteen verses would never have been a hit. Thanks to Roger McGuinn !
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