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re: Starter Guitar
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:18 am to KingBeingking
Posted on 11/14/17 at 10:18 am to KingBeingking
I bought a cheap PRS SE when CC Music shut down it's Baton Rouge location. I paid about 250 for it and I play it way more than my Fender,Gibson Ibanez ect.... It is a short scale like a Gibson and it is easy to play, light enough to play for hours on end and it stays in tune. Here is one just like it.....
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Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:16 pm to KJ85
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My personal opinion would be to start on an electric guitar for no other reason than it is just easier to play. Rage quitting due to frustration is a very real thing.
I disagree only for the fact that electrics are loud. I have been playing 10 years (wow, wish I had more to show for it), and still don't like to bother people when I practice. This is especially true with tube amps? That you need to crank up a bit. I don't love many cheap, small solid states.
Though I have gotten better in this regard, I was always self conscious when I played and didn't have quality practice on an electric.
However, most of the music you are going to try and emulate is electric, and you just can't get there tone wise (for the most part) with an acoustic, so that might create confidence being able to copy early on.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:21 pm to OceanMan
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Don't spend too much, this won't be your last guitar if you like to play
No matter how much you spend, though, your first guitar will always hold a special place in your heart.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:38 pm to Jester
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No matter how much you spend, though, your first guitar will always hold a special place in your heart.
If you keep playing then yes. I have just seen too many forgotten Ibanez and shitty fender amps over the years.
i guess my point is get any guitar, see if you like playing, then go buy one when you have a better idea what you are looking for.
Having said that my very first guitar is still the one I play the most often, it's an acoustic. My MiM tele that I got shortly after hasn't seen action in years, on the contrary
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:23 pm to OceanMan
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Having said that my very first guitar is still the one I play the most often, it's an acoustic.
I have a soft spot for my first guitar - a '80 to '82 (not sure) Westerly-made Guild D-35 - cracks all in the sides (which is how I ended up with it). Sings like an old, old piano.
I may end up putting 2 little E strings on it to play Goo Goo Dolls stuff. Or just set it up to play Rain Song all the time. I still play it almost as much as my Ovation.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:52 pm to Ace Midnight
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set it up to play Rain Song all the time
Is that in DADGAD tuning?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 3:15 pm to randybobandy
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Is that in DADGAD tuning?
No. DGCGCD
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:28 pm to KingBeingking
Keep in mind that any reasonable quality guitar that is hard to play due to string height can usually be corrected with some adjustment by someone that knows what they are doing. Every guitar I have would have been considered unplayable when I bought them, in may experience it is rare to find a new guitar in one of the guitar stores that is correctly set up. .
Posted on 11/14/17 at 5:49 pm to DesignTiger
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I'd go with a Epiphone or Squire if you're not that serious about it.
I'd recommend an Epiphone if he was serious or not that serious about it. They make nice looking guitars that don't cost and arm and a leg and the action is usually very good on them making them very playable (especially for a beginner). They also sound nice too. Epiphones were good enough for the Beatles...
Posted on 11/14/17 at 6:47 pm to KingBeingking
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 2:31 am to KingBeingking
If you are going to have a teacher,get him/her to help you pick 1 out.
As others have said, a used Yamaha is a good bet for an acoustic,and the Squier Classic Vibe for an electric.
Or go by Fret Shack's shop and let him hook you up.From everything that I have seen from the guy on this board,he won't steer you wrong.
As others have said, a used Yamaha is a good bet for an acoustic,and the Squier Classic Vibe for an electric.
Or go by Fret Shack's shop and let him hook you up.From everything that I have seen from the guy on this board,he won't steer you wrong.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:00 am to auggie
this ^^^
Used definitely and if possible that suggestion to bring along someone who knows anything is key. Brands are sorta like cars it's often more about their condition, than how they started out life. It might be real easy to get one put right, just a set up, that the seller might do on the cheap.
acoustic or electric ?
That suggestion about acoustic being easier on the ears should not be overlooked. I might have learned as a kid, instead of an adult with one. And the portability, to just walk out on the back deck, go down stairs, or a chair out back in the yard is real nice. Plus with an electric you have to deal with the extra cost of an amp (and cable)... and the added decision on which one of these... which is another learning curve and definitely a matter of personal opinion (and really makes a big difference). Plus most every electric player needs an acoustic to knock around with from time to time and not every acoustic player will ever buy an electric.
Used definitely and if possible that suggestion to bring along someone who knows anything is key. Brands are sorta like cars it's often more about their condition, than how they started out life. It might be real easy to get one put right, just a set up, that the seller might do on the cheap.
acoustic or electric ?
That suggestion about acoustic being easier on the ears should not be overlooked. I might have learned as a kid, instead of an adult with one. And the portability, to just walk out on the back deck, go down stairs, or a chair out back in the yard is real nice. Plus with an electric you have to deal with the extra cost of an amp (and cable)... and the added decision on which one of these... which is another learning curve and definitely a matter of personal opinion (and really makes a big difference). Plus most every electric player needs an acoustic to knock around with from time to time and not every acoustic player will ever buy an electric.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:05 am to awestruck
Thanks for the kind words :)
On the acoustic versus electric question ... get what you "want" to play. Any new musical instrument has its own set of challenges and the potential to discourage its user via limited progress. If you're playing an instrument that sounds like the sound you want to emulate, and even look like what you like, it's really a strong motivator. As a young teen, I wanted to be the next EVH so badly that I literally begged my parents to help me get an electric guitar. My parents got a loaner acoustic and told me to learn how to play that, then we'd pursue an electric. The acoustic (a nice one, I might add) sat cased and untouched under my bed -- I had zero motivation to play an acoustic. I persisted to beg for an electric, eventually got one and then a guitar was in my hands for hours daily. It "looked" like EVH, it "sounded" like EVH ... you get the idea.
In addition being found in similar price points to acoustics, electrics offer lower string action, thinner strings, physically smaller bodies and usually slimmer necks - all advantageous to a new player. They are quieter than acoustics if need be - there is no rule that says you have to plug in an electric to practice on it. And as for investment in an amp, again shopping used to maximize your dollar's buying power, there are a plethora of small practice combo amps out there that are bedroom sized and wattage. Most modern ones have headphone jacks.
The amp in my den that I noodle through at night when I'm winding down my day is an Epiphone Studio 15R I was given by a friend. It is a very surprisingly and shockingly good sounding little bedroom sized platform, a 15-watt solid state combo with two channels (one being a sweet sounding gain/rock channel), reverb and a headphone jack. It's the size of a fat kid's lunch box and weighs practically nothing. It's not loud enough to keep up with a drummer, but that's not its purpose - its best task is conversation-level volume.
I just did a Google shopping search and the most expensive example I found on the used market was $65. Most in clean condition are the $40 range. Those are not typos.
On the acoustic versus electric question ... get what you "want" to play. Any new musical instrument has its own set of challenges and the potential to discourage its user via limited progress. If you're playing an instrument that sounds like the sound you want to emulate, and even look like what you like, it's really a strong motivator. As a young teen, I wanted to be the next EVH so badly that I literally begged my parents to help me get an electric guitar. My parents got a loaner acoustic and told me to learn how to play that, then we'd pursue an electric. The acoustic (a nice one, I might add) sat cased and untouched under my bed -- I had zero motivation to play an acoustic. I persisted to beg for an electric, eventually got one and then a guitar was in my hands for hours daily. It "looked" like EVH, it "sounded" like EVH ... you get the idea.
In addition being found in similar price points to acoustics, electrics offer lower string action, thinner strings, physically smaller bodies and usually slimmer necks - all advantageous to a new player. They are quieter than acoustics if need be - there is no rule that says you have to plug in an electric to practice on it. And as for investment in an amp, again shopping used to maximize your dollar's buying power, there are a plethora of small practice combo amps out there that are bedroom sized and wattage. Most modern ones have headphone jacks.
The amp in my den that I noodle through at night when I'm winding down my day is an Epiphone Studio 15R I was given by a friend. It is a very surprisingly and shockingly good sounding little bedroom sized platform, a 15-watt solid state combo with two channels (one being a sweet sounding gain/rock channel), reverb and a headphone jack. It's the size of a fat kid's lunch box and weighs practically nothing. It's not loud enough to keep up with a drummer, but that's not its purpose - its best task is conversation-level volume.
I just did a Google shopping search and the most expensive example I found on the used market was $65. Most in clean condition are the $40 range. Those are not typos.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:23 am to TheFretShack
I also just did a Google shopping search for a Crate GX-15R. That was my bedroom amp in college decades ago and virtually identical in size, features, tones and application to the Epiphone I described above. Average price is about $40 on the used market there too. Here's a interesting aside - at one point in college my Mesa-Boogie head was DOA and I couldn't afford to fix it immediately, so I hooked up my Boogie's 4x12 to the Crate's external speaker jack. Not only did it work, and very loudly enough to mix with the band at rehearsals, but I got through a few gigs that way while I saving money to fix my Boogie head.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:45 am to TheFretShack
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just did a Google shopping search and the most expensive example I found on the used market was $65. Most in clean condition are the $40 range. Those are not typos.
Damn it man, get to work.
“Daphne Blue Strat MIM” google that. Get me something cheap.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:50 am to TheFretShack
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there are a plethora of small practice combo amps out there that are bedroom sized and wattage.
Remember when the 1-watt amps were all the rage? I got one (they're all pretty much the same, but I got the Danelectro - the little Pignoses were popular, too) for about $30 bucks. Runs off a 9-volt battery.
You know that thing - I've used it sparingly, but you could do a lot worse for just sitting on the bed working on power cords and not get kicked out of your apartment.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:06 am to awestruck
I wish that guy lived within 100 miles of me. He would get tired of seeing me though.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:22 am to KingBeingking
Epiphone makes a nice/affordable semi acoustic these days. I think it's a DR500?
Posted on 11/15/17 at 1:12 pm to hogcard1964
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Epiphone makes a nice/affordable semi acoustic these days.
I'm not going to derogate anyone's choice or recommendation. However, other than the DOT, I've never been impressed by a single thing made by Epiphone.
And, this may be heresy - but even American made Gibsons (while very nice) - just don't warrant the premium they charge (as always, IMHO).
Posted on 11/15/17 at 2:14 pm to Ace Midnight
Masterbuilts? I love those.
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