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Is U2 one of the greats?

Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:10 am
Posted by Oscillate Wildly
England
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:10 am
When you put longevity, sales, worldwide popularity, critical acclaim etc together they probably deserve to be.

But they seem to have so many more haters than the traditional heavyweights like the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin etc. In 30 years will they be remembered in this category?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:16 am to
No, they had 2 or 3 solid albums then a bunch of pedestrian crap
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:16 am to
Probably, though they really haven't done much in the past 25 years of note.
Posted by Oscillate Wildly
England
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:23 am to
Neither have the Rolling Stones, the Who, the Beach Boys but they are considered in the elite.

U2’s first decade was outstanding for quality, which seems to be enough for 60s bands in particular.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:31 am to
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U2’s first decade was outstanding for quality


It really was.

Creativity runs out after a while with everyone though.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:17 am to
no
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22266 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:26 am to
I gotta say yes, even though I'm not a fan of their later work...
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:52 am to
I like U2, but they're not in the least bit groundbreaking like the Beatles, Stones (via cultural appropriation), and Zeppelin were.

Their early albums from the 80's were deeply connected with the time they were produced and were fantastic.

The ones after Achtung Baby in 1991 were disconnected and not very good. IMO

Rich people can't make good music.

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:00 am to
Worldwide? Yes.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:01 am to

Of course they are. The fact that some people don’t like their latest work doesn’t diminish their accomplishments
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:11 am to
quote:

they had 2 or 3 solid albums then a bunch of pedestrian crap


Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63440 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:13 am to
No Line On The Horizon was solid, and that was just a few years ago.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:19 am to
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The fact that some people don’t like their latest work doesn’t diminish their accomplishments

Or the fact that Bono can be a preachy douche. I'm a U2 fan but Bono is a preachy douchebag and I think that's why they get most of their hate.

Let's face it, they were the college rock of the day like REM pushing the left leaning causes. If REM was still relevant I could only imagine the hate Stipe would get now. It would be 3x as bad as then too.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 10:20 am
Posted by parrotdr
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Member since Oct 2003
7507 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:54 am to
Absolutely one of the greats. But, just like Springsteen, once their name is mentioned here the hate comes out. Whether you're a preachy douche or not doesn't diminish the art. And at least Bono has accomplished a lot through his causes.

However, this is about music. Their run of solid music throughout the 80's--in the age of hair metal and new wave synth-pop/rock--from "Boy", "War", "October", "The Unforgettable Fire" to "The Joshua Tree" and even a bit beyond was remarkable. The Edge was a new sound on guitar, and Bone was a unique voice. Hard to dismiss them.

Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10408 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Or the fact that Bono can be a preachy douche. I'm a U2 fan but Bono is a preachy douchebag and I think that's why they get most of their hate.


I think this is why the hate exists. Their actual music is pretty good.

This might be unpopular, but All That You Can't Leave Behind and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb were solid for 20+ years into a career and had some decent songs.

It just is really rare that people sustain greatness for 20+ years. Some of the all time greats have newer stuff that doesn't compare to their beginnings.
Posted by Rat_Urine
Denver
Member since Oct 2018
4 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:33 am to
Bono is the damn GOAT he makes me nut every time i listen to him
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:38 am to
Hell no!!! U2 sucks arse
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:20 pm to
Everything after Achtung Baby is complete garbage.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:43 pm to
I get nostalgic for a time when the idea of being considered "one of the greats" was an insultingly mainstream notion and no self-respecting alt-rock entity (or it's fans) would admit to giving a flying frick about such a thing.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10951 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:59 pm to
I never liked them, but if I had come of age during their early years I might have felt different. I can't imagine it with how much I dislike their overwrought earnestness, but who knows.
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