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How big would Blind Melon be if Hoon was still around?

Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:13 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:13 am
I sadly didn't get into Blind Melon until about 2007, but I always loved "No Rain" before that...I just never picked up any of their albums. I finally listened to Soup back then and was hooked before Galaxie ended. They have been one of my favorite bands since. I sometimes wonder how the band would have progressed after Soup. Nico gives us a glimpse into that, but the album isn't complete and I have doubts that many of the songs would have made it to their next album. The song "Soup" on that album happens to be one of my favorites and I want to believe that their follow up to the album Soup would have sounded more like the song "Soup" and "Pusher." They were on an upward trajectory for quality of music IMO until Hoon died. It's such a shame...the guy poured his soul into the music and you can just feel it when you listen.

On a side note, I hope the documentary film "All I Can Say" makes it to theaters everywhere. It's basically all footage that Hoon shot over the lifespan of the band up until his death.
Posted by tilco
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
No Rain is almost a perfect song.

Tones of Home is a great song as well.
Posted by MontanaMax
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:24 pm to
I've always loved this band. His songwriting was top notch. I do think that they were a but ahead of their time music wise, though. I like to think were Hoon still alive they would have put out some unbelievable stuff. A lot of those songs on NICO were just workshop songs that he was starting on. Had they had a chance to flesh some of, I'm sure it would've been unreal.
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:44 pm to
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A lot of those songs on NICO were just workshop songs that he was starting on. Had they had a chance to flesh some of, I'm sure it would've been unreal.


I agree, and a prime example is the fleshed out version of St Andrews Fall (Also one of my favorites of theirs) on Soup versus the version on NICO.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:10 pm to
Shannon hoon and blind melon were one of my first musical obsessions.

I saw them live twice, once as a warm up show for woodstock at the stone pony in asbury park, nj. They played for about 3 hours and played almost all the songs off soup before the album was released.

I saw them again on the jersey shore like a month before he died. Such a great band and they were amazing live, but even after rehab you could see shannon was in a dark place.

I lived in nj at the time but my buddy was going to school at tulane and had tickets to the show the night he od’d. He sent me the ticket, i still have it.
Posted by Htowntiger90
Houston
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:14 pm to
What a singer.

I saw them in NOLA open for Lenny Kravitz. They were so much better than Kravitz was on stage.

For "No Rain" Hoon didn't sing the first verse. He conducted the crowd singing it. Cool concert moment.
Posted by statman34
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:10 pm to
I almost like every single song on all 3 of their albums. Honestly. It is one of the only bands I can say that about, even the ones I love more than them. I just like their music that much. It's really a shame he died because they were tremendously talented.
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:42 pm to
Man, what could have been. The first two albums are flawless. Not a single bad song on either.

This is the best one of all of them - Change
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 6:46 pm
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:45 pm to
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No Rain is almost a perfect song.


Change is my favorite. Love that song.

No Rain is great too.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:46 pm to
Very good thread. I was thinking the exact same thing the other day. Blind Melon was great, as was Shannon Hoon. I have no doubt with their talent and creativity, they would have been huge had Hoon not died. That is such a shame man. What could've been.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:36 pm to
Interesting question. They were different than a lot of the big grunge acts. Probably a little ahead of the rise of some indie/Americana trends.

Maybe somewhere around as big as Wilco? Probably be a festival draw with a devoted following.

This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 10:38 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

No Rain is almost a perfect song.

Tones of Home is a great song as well


That entire album is great
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:25 pm to
It's weird that "Blind Melon" is touring without Brad now. I feel like he and Shannon were the creative forces behind the band.
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:17 pm to
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I saw them in NOLA open for Lenny Kravitz. They were so much better than Kravitz was on stage.



I was there for that. I couldn't remember who I saw them open up for but you're right, it was Kravitz. Lenny Kravitz sucked live. I distinctly remember that he would start banging his head and the lyrics continued to play flawlessly. I think he lip synced that entire show.

I guess I was a bit behind the times because I didn't realize how special Blind Melon was at the time. I just knew the lead singer was a friend of Axl Rose's and sung on Don't Cry.
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:37 pm to
Here’s a great song that many people may have missed.

Mother

I had never heard the song until about three years ago; I found it when I got the 20th anniversary release of the debut album.
Posted by Bill Parker?
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:24 am to
Very big. They were insanely talented when they were young kids, and had the ability to write songs and perform. Hoon cemented them as a group and made them a complete band. When Hoon overdosed, they eventually went their own directions.
Posted by maxxrajun70
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:21 am to
Didn't he overdose in Nola?
Posted by river_man
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:30 am to
Mouthful of Cavities

I’ve heard this a million times, and still get goosebumps! Straight from the soul...
The Soup album, which was recorded in New Orleans, is top 10 all time for me. I love the vibe and sound of it, was ahead of its time imo.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:23 am to
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Didn't he overdose in Nola?


Yep, on the tour bus I believe.

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When Hoon overdosed, they eventually went their own directions.


Ehhhh...they kinda reformed the band and got a new singer that sounds like Shannon, similar to what AIC did after Layne passed. Original member Brad Smith sort of left the band a couple years ago to do his own thing. Not sure if it's a permanent departure or what.

I don't feel too great about them continuing the band without Shannon, much like AIC without Layne. It just doesn't seem right from a fan's point of view. I can also see their point of view that they never asked for this. They loved Shannon and wanted to keep writing that same type of music.

That being said, For My Friends (album with new singer) wasn't too bad and sort of sounded like Blind Melon.
Posted by BitBuster
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:57 am to
Sadly, I don't see any other fate for Hoon or the band other than what happened. They had no detachment between themselves and their music. That just isn't sustainable. At some point you just need to go on stage and put in a clinical performance. They couldn't turn it off and do that. Which is what made them great.
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