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re: Has any band killed a genre like Nirvana killed hair band rock?
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:39 am to weagle99
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:39 am to weagle99
I like Nirvana and I did at the time but they get wayyyyy to much credit. Pearl Jam was arguably the bigger band when Cobain offed himself for a reason. To give Nirvana even the majority of credit for the demise of Hair Metal is flat out incorrect.
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:46 am to Ace Midnight
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- if the OP thinks Nirvana was metal at all, hair or otherwise, that's a different discussion for a different time.
well then.... carry on
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:00 am to Tackle74
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Pearl Jam was arguably the bigger band when Cobain offed himself for a reason. To give Nirvana even the majority of credit for the demise of Hair Metal is flat out incorrect.
Nirvana was credited with “the demise of hair metal” when they released “Nevermind” in late ‘91 and it hit number 1 in early 1992. Cobain didn’t off himself until the spring of 1994.
Pearl Jam may have been the bigger band by then (though the album sales say otherwise), but Nirvana was the original face of the genre.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:17 am to logjamming
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Nirvana was credited with “the demise of hair metal” when they released “Nevermind” in late ‘91 and it hit number 1 in early 1992.
This is both conventional wisdom and what happened, largely. It isn't the only factor. Recall that Metallica's "black" album came out in 1991 - and they were "selling out" drawing more traditional hard rock and "hair" metal fans with that monster album. You also had a broad based "alternative" movement going on with RHCP, Korn (and other nu-metal), 311, Jane's Addiction, Dinosaur, Jr. - ALL of that was pulling at the same "rock" pie, and hair metal was dying an organic death.
But, that transition to grunge - at least on the mainstream media outlets - was like a lightning bolt.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:14 pm to Marciano1
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Hair metal gets a lot of hate but that era produced a ton of great and underappreciated guitarists and vocalists.
Reb Beach from Winger is/was phenomenal.
Sebastian Bach, baby
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:36 pm to ruzil
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Sex pistols killed disco
Nevermind the Bullocks was actually released prior to Saturday Night Fever, which sold 16 million albums.. but whatever.. I'd give much more credit to a band like the Clash.. or just a fad dying out
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:59 pm to Ace Midnight
RHCP were huge in late 91 and 92 when BSSM dropped.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:59 am to Tackle74
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Pearl Jam was arguably the bigger band when Cobain offed himself for a reason.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:12 am to ruzil
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Sex pistols killed disco
Yeah, somewhat. But, Urban Cowboy more so. People shaking their booty in the discos suddenly were wearing cowboy hats, boots and line dancing after discovering country music. Barf. Buncha pudknockers.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:34 am to Telecaster
thankfully, hair bands gifted to the world the magic of stripper songs before nirvana killed them
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:19 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Then he can probably give you first hand stories of when Pantera was glam (Rex Rocker on bass!). AiC started the same way.
and Pantera (my BIL is friends with Phil and other guys from the band and Down)
Hair metal is way over-derided. Lots of quality bands and with a focus on technical mastery and escapism. Nothing at all wrong with it. A good example is White Lion - truly great musicianship and great melodies. At least 10 songs that are light years ahead of a lot of the shite that is popular today.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:21 am to Ace Midnight
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This is both conventional wisdom and what happened, largely. It isn't the only factor. Recall that Metallica's "black" album came out in 1991 - and they were "selling out" drawing more traditional hard rock and "hair" metal fans with that monster album.
The Black Album, The Use Your Illusions and No More Tears all came out within 6 weeks of each other. It was awesome. (Rush Roll the Bones too!)
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:01 pm to Telecaster
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Urban Cowboy more so. People shaking their booty in the discos suddenly were wearing cowboy hats, boots and line dancing after discovering country music. Barf. Buncha pudknockers.
This. John Travolta both brought Disco in and out of the main stream.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:02 pm to Marciano1
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Reb Beach from Winger is/was phenomenal
As for the OP:
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" : Hair Metal
= "My Sharona" : Disco = "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" : Doo Wop / 50s pop / Folk
The phenomenal success of each song marked a dramatic shift in popular music tastes.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:45 am to weagle99
Alice Cooper killed hippie music
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:26 am to CSATiger
The Stones ended the peace/love flower power genre' after Altamont.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:39 am to Big Scrub TX
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Then he can probably give you first hand stories of when Pantera was glam
No, because Phil came in 1986 and Power Metal was the next release. Phil was basically Dimebag's rejection of glam/hair metal trappings. My BIL didn't get associated with the band until then - I think he may have even roadied with them - briefly.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:56 am to monsterballads
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Pearl Jam was arguably the bigger band when Cobain offed himself for a reason.
Laugh but facts bear out the truth
1991
Nirvana
Nevermind- 11,850,000
Pearl Jam
Ten 13,300,000
1993
Nirvana In Utero 5,800,000
Pearl Jam Vs 7,400,000
1994
Nirvana Unplugged 5,900,000
Pearl Jam Vitalogy 5,900,000
If Eddie Vedder was a Herion addicted suicide then this thread would have been how Pearl Jam killed Hair Metal and it would still be incorrect
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:11 pm to ruzil
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Sex pistols killed disco
I think a better case could be made that they killed the Progressive Rock of the 70's. Prog Rock was huge in the 70's. But, look at what those bands turned into. See Genesis, Yes, Rush, Asia and others and what their early 80's music was.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:31 pm to wareaglepete
Punk killed disco.
New Wave killed that progressive rock.
New Wave killed that progressive rock.
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