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re: Diddy has to pay Sting $5,000 a day for life for sampling without permission
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:37 pm to Hickok
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:37 pm to Hickok
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I’d say most of his career has been stealing music, just look into how he stole “Juicy” from the MS rapper notorious B1, who dropped this song a year before Biggie Link
Which is sampled from Juicy Fruit my Mtume
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:42 pm to TigerintheNO
Lol
Yellowcard was also suing JuiceWorld before he OD’d. He jacked the melody to one of their songs.
Yellowcard was also suing JuiceWorld before he OD’d. He jacked the melody to one of their songs.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:43 pm to TigerintheNO
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No, that is what Juice WRLD tweeted when he found out Sting now has 85% ownership of his song.
Then Juice WRLD is as stupid as his rap name. He stole the shite out of that instrumental, what does he expect?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:44 pm to Jester
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everything you love about Rap you can thank a white guy
Everything you love about rock music, you can thank a black guy.
IS SARCASM NEW TO YOU?
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:46 pm to Downeast12
He’s dead, so he probably doesn’t expect anything
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:47 pm to QJenk
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How in the world did Diddy not think to get that sample cleared.
Would he have had the same success without that song? What if they denied him? He took a risk and it looks like its paid off.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:47 pm to CaptainsWafer
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Which is sampled from Juicy Fruit my Mtume
I know they are both sampled from that, but if you can’t see the resemblance in rythem, lyrics, or even the names “Notorious B1” vs “Notorious BIG” then you should replace that hearing aid battery and glasses.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:49 pm to TigerintheNO
PD didn’t just sample a bit of it FFS the entire song is a rip on it. Puffy’s sing would not exist if the original had never been.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:55 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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Seems very excessive.
Do you think that’s just a made up number?
It’s based on revenue. So that means Sean Combs is making even more than that. It’s revenue sharing. It’s not a penalty.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:57 pm to Obtuse1
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the drum intro on Rock and Roll is straight from Keep a Knockin'. I had listened to Led Zepplin IV
Meh I’ll wager a learned percussionist would say that although similar either they are different in structure or else it’s such a common riff that it’s hard to say a copy. I forget the details but I saw Whiplash a while back and remember something about triplets or something. Whatever. Rain delay.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:59 pm to SuperSaint
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Sting sounds trashy
SuperSaint is trashy.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:04 pm to TigerintheNO
Take away the stolen lyrics and the hooks they steal and you are left with 3 black guys pounding on bongos in most cases.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:06 pm to TigerintheNO
Oh, can't you see
You belong to me?
You belong to me?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:10 pm to Deactived
quote:frick Diddy and all the others than can't come up with an original thought!
Are you saying frick sting for doing this?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:27 pm to QJenk
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Every Breath You Take is a very popular song. Of course someone would recognize it. And it's not like he sampled it for a random end of album song just to fill a slot. He used the sample for a song used in tribute of Biggy Smalls, of course that song would be huge.
Didn't think Sting would clear it. Thought the song would be huge and just did it anyway, knowing he'd pay the price possibly.
Literal juice worth the squeeze.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:51 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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If true, the number is $1.825 million per year. The song came out 25 years ago, so that is $45.625 million. Seems very excessive.
Most likely it’s a percentage of the royalties which just works out to $5,000/day.
Which I will admit is still more than I would have expected that song to be making in royalties, in 2023, but I doubt he is just paying a flat $5,000/day in perpetuity.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:54 pm to TigerintheNO
And I thought Bobby Bonilla had a sweet deal
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:56 pm to TigerintheNO
What year is it
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:02 pm to Obtuse1
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I felt pretty stupid when about 2 years ago it hit me the drum intro on Rock and Roll is straight from Keep a Knockin'. I had listened to Led Zepplin IV several thousand times over 50 years and Rock and Roll no telling how many times individually and it just never hit me.
Drum parts/patterns/beats typically can’t be claimed under copyright.
Also, I think there’s a massive difference between that and literally using a sample of someone else’s recording without permission.
It’s not entirely black and white, though. The classic example is the 2 Live Crew lawsuit where they sampled “Oh, Pretty Woman” without permission and won the ensuing lawsuit at the Supreme Court. Since the sampling was used as “satire” it was ruled as fair use. I think a lot of producers and artists got bold after that 2 Live Crew lawsuit but reality is that’s the exception, not the rule.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:20 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Do you think that’s just a made up number?
It’s based on revenue. So that means Sean Combs is making even more than that. It’s revenue sharing. It’s not a penalty.
This, and it took three pages for someone to answer it. And the 5 grand is probably an exaggeration of one day when the song was hot, not that amount every day for life.
When Sam Smith finally hit it big, one of his first hits had a very distinctive guitar rift that they now believe a studio musician helping with his album put in the song and they thought it sounded great. Whether it was on purpose or not, it was a knockoff of a Tom Petty song, whose producer was threatening to sue, when Petty found out he called Sam Smith, said have your guys put "in collaboration with Tom Petty" on the credits and that will cover you. No money, no issues, Petty said pay it forward my man. Class act may he RIP.
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