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re: Better Weezer album?

Posted on 7/22/13 at 9:57 am to
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 9:57 am to
Blue by a pretty good bit.
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:04 am to
Love Blue.

But I'd put the run from Why Bother through Pink Triangle up there with any 5 song run on any other album. Because of that, I go Pinkerton
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:04 am to
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You know, some people/bands only have a limited shelf life...


This is what happened to rivers, imo. Pinkerton saw him branching out, perhaps entering his creative peak. instead of hitting his stride, he walked away.
Posted by TFTC
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:24 am to
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instead of hitting his stride, he walked away


Happened to Mangum with NMH... I dont know if its a case of nothing left in the tank, pressure, spotlight... not sure, but it happen often..
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:32 am to
This is one of the reasons I find Aja so amazing. 6th album. I rarely last more than 3.
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:39 am to
Last couple of albums have been painful. They still have their diamonds in the rough. I don't even mind the green album.
Posted by Jonas
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:42 am to
I think Pinkerton is their "Paul's Boutique"

While it was not an immediate success, it will go down as their best album
Posted by TigerRad
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 10:53 am to
Pinkerton is greater as a work of art.

Blue is greater as a pop/rock fun listen.

I have actually loved all of their stuff through the years. Rivers evolution has been fascinating. Early stuff is still the best of course.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:28 pm to
Blue is better, imo.

Only In dreams
The sweater song
Say it ain't so.

Knowledge!
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 1:31 pm to
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Was Rivers in the zone or what during that stretch?

incredibly gifted artist.
Posted by contraryman
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 4:58 pm to
Both are great and...

I really like Green and Red too.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:06 pm to
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Blue is better, imo.


Pinkerton has:

No one else
Good life
El scorcho
Pink triangle
Across the sea
Why bother
Getchoo
Falling for you
Tired of sex

And the oddly placed "butterfly"

I think overall is might be the better album out of the two although they are both masterpieces.

Only in dreams being my favorite Weezer song ever
Posted by trillhog
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:11 pm to
i liked the make believe album, it was written off, but i thought it had a bunch of good songs.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 6:16 pm to
Blue:
My Name Is Jonas
No One Else
The World Has Turned and Left Me Here
Buddy Holly
Undone (The Sweater Song)
Surf Wax America
Say It Ain't So
In the Garage

Holiday
Only in Dreams

Pinkerton:

Tired of Sex
Getchoo
No Other One
Why Bother?
Across the Sea
The Good Life
El Scorcho

Pink Triangle
Falling for You
Butterfly

I definitely like more of the songs on Blue. They're simple (for the most part) and always enjoyable.

Pinkerton's a weird listen and it took me a couple of years to truly appreciate the album as a whole. I only listen to probably four or so songs from Pinkerton on rotation. The content and self-reflection on Pinkerton have always resonated with me and it's definitely the more personal of the two.

Seriously though, that's two damn fine albums from front to back.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 6:58 pm to
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The content and self-reflection on Pinkerton have always resonated with me and it's definitely the more personal of the two.


Absolutely. It got panned early on by critics and rivers went into a deep depression that essentially caused the band to break up for several years while rivers went to school in Boston
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 7:39 pm to
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essentially caused the band to break up for several years


at least it wasnt all bad news.



the green album and on really shows what matt sharp brought to the band. their "divorce" robbed rivers of a songwriting partner and someone that would shoot him straight. unfortunately, the same is true of matt sharp. he really benefited from rivers influence as well.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 8:08 pm to
Couldn't agree more

Rivers got Mikey "cocaine" welsh on board and we all saw how that turned out
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