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re: Better 90s British Band: Radiohead or Oasis?

Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:59 am to
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:59 am to
Yea, Oasis. Radiohead blows
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:40 pm to
Has there ever been a single thread of this nature where the phrase "and it isn't even close" hasn't been used by almost every single poster?
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:52 pm to
Just off 90s albums, it's got to be Oasis.

Entire career it's Radiohead in a landslide. In Rainbows is every bit as good as any of the other greats on the list. Oasis just lost it completely. Thought Oasis does get extra points for an awesome live album.

Also, no Blur???
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:07 pm to
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Also, no Blur???
No. Song 2 does not a career make.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:37 pm to
Blur was much more than Song 2. But I still prefer Oasis, so I don't really want to defend Blur, the lesser of the two great bands of 90s Brit-rock.

I'm not the biggest Radiohead fan in the world, as most of their stuff is just pretentious navel gazing, and they've kind of given birth to the idea that rock bands shouldn't rock, as if they are terrified of noise and spontaneity. Oasis, say what you will, was never afraid of anarchy.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 2:43 pm to
Radiohead. Not really sure how this is debatable
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 7:06 pm to
Radiohead by a lot. I like Oasis too but Radiohead is just head and shoulders above them
Posted by tccdc
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:39 pm to
Oasis....

if you think different

Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 3:59 am to
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Oasis tried to hard to be the Beatles.


Oasis > Beatles :ducks:
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 9:11 am to
Oasis had two great albums.
Radiohead had six great albums.





In terms of music style, apples and oranges, no doubt.

In all ways, the two are not comparable whatsoever.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 9:18 am
Posted by CXSteve
Member since Oct 2012
891 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:12 am to
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Oasis had two great albums.
Radiohead had six great albums.


Oasis have about 30 great songs, Radiohead has about 5. Oasis just didn't have the high concept, computer production to apeal to the critics.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:04 pm to
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Oasis > Beatles
Did you type that with a straight face?
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Oasis > Beatles
Did you type that with a straight face?



Crazy, huh?
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
39159 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 3:59 pm to
I figured this would be a Radiohead fan thread, but it's Oasis for me.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
39159 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:00 pm to
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Oasis > Beatles


That's going to be made fun of on here, if you're being serious, but I'd much rather listen to Oasis than the Beatles
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:03 pm to
Oasis is just so bland compared to Radiohead.

Please post something that Oasis has performed that is as near as interesting and unique as something like this:

LINK
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:21 pm to
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Oasis is just so bland compared to Radiohead.
See, I find the statement is more accurate if reversed.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56843 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:25 pm to
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See, I find the statement is more accurate if reversed.



You can say a lot of things about Radiohead, but "bland" is not one of them. Complete opposite. How you can look at the video I posted and come to that conclusion is beyond me.

Please, post an Oasis song that is unique, new, or in any way musically interesting. Sure, being a pop rock band, they wrote a couple of catchy songs, but that is just kind of boring to me.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46142 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:38 pm to
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The Beatles' influence on 90s rock group Oasis has been noted by critics ("Beatles copyists") as well as the band members themselves; guitarist Noel Gallagher has stated "It's beyond an obsession. It's an ideal for living. I don't even know how to justify it to myself. With every song that I write, I compare it to The Beatles." Vocalist Liam Gallagher (whose vocal style imitates aspects of John Lennon's) named his first son Lennon.[21] The two brothers shared the role of frontman, a concept made popular by The Beatles. The band has been known to perform live covers of "I Am the Walrus", "Helter Skelter", "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" and "Strawberry Fields Forever", which have seen release on live albums and as b-sides. From 2004 to 2008, Ringo Starr's son Zak Starkey was Oasis' drummer. Noel Gallagher sat on a panel in 2004 to decide on the most influential of pop artists to be included in the UK Music Hall of Fame, and was quoted as saying "[The Beatles] inspire me more now than they did when I was a kid and are still the greatest".

Oasis songs also often contain references to Beatles' songs, such as:

“You can sail with me/In my yellow submarine” - "Supersonic" off Definitely Maybe (1994).
During live performances of "Whatever" (1994), the band often alter the lyrics to match those of Beatles song "Octopus's Garden".
"Walking to the sound of my favourite tune, tomorrow never knows what it doesn't know too soon" - Morning Glory" from (What's the Story) Morning Glory (1995)
The song "Don't Look Back in Anger" from (What's the Story) Morning Glory (1995) features a piano line near-identical to that of John Lennon's solo hit "Imagine", as well as a bridge section instrumentally reminiscent of "Octopus's Garden" and featuring a Lennon quote in the lyric ('so I start a revolution from my bed').
The song "Wonderwall" takes its name from a 1968 film for which George Harrison wrote the soundtrack. A lyric in the song, 'all the roads we have to walk are winding', references The Beatles' "The Long and Winding Road".
"Champagne Supernova" features a lead guitar line (occurring approximately 5 minutes & 45 seconds into the song) markedly similar to the closing lead guitar of "Dear Prudence".
"She's Electric" from (What's the Story) Morning Glory (1995) ends with the same chord progression as the end of "With a Little Help From My Friends".
John Lennon was once asked to sum up the 60s in one phrase - his reply, "Be here now", was used by Gallagher for Oasis' 1997 album, and for the album's title track. George Harrison had previously used the title for a song on his 1973 album Living in the Material World.
“Sing a song to me/One from ‘Let It Be’” – "Be Here Now" from Be Here Now (1997).
The "Na-Na-Na-Na" segment of "All Around the World" from Be Here Now (1997) is very similar to that of "Hey Jude"
"Get on the Helter Skelter/Step into the fray" - "Fade In-Out" from Be Here Now (1997).
“I’d like to be/Under the sea” - a line from Beatles song "Octopus' Garden" is recycled in "Take Me Away" from the Supersonic [EP] (1994). The same line can also be heard around the 4:50 mark of "The Masterplan" (b-side to "Wonderwall", 1995) being sung by Noel. Shortly thereafter, a rocking chair can be heard which is a reference to the ending of the "A Day in the Life" by The Beatles.
“Fool on the Hill and I Feel Fine” - "D'You Know What I Mean?" from Be Here Now (1997).
“Down The Long and Winding Road/and back home to you” - "My Big Mouth" from Be Here Now (1997).
The title of Go Let It Out may be a reference to the line in "Hey Jude", "So let it out and let it in, hey, Jude, begin (2000)
"Won't let you down/Don't let me down" - "Won't let you down", b-side to "Lyla" (2005)
The melody for the Liam track "Guess God Thinks I'm Abel" from Don't Believe the Truth (2005) by his own admission, is a slowed down version of "I Wanna Be Your Man".
“Who kicked a hole in the sky, so the heavens will cry over me?” a reference to Beatles song "Fixing a Hole" - "Let there Be Love" from Don't Believe in the Truth (2005).
"Love is a litany/A magical mystery" - "The Shock Of The Lightning" from Dig Out Your Soul (2008).
"I'm Outta Time" from Dig Out Your Soul (2008) features an audio-clip of Lennon defending his right to live in New York, when he says "As Churchill said, 'It's every Englishman's inalienable right to live where the hell he likes. What's it gonna do? Vanish? Is it not going to be there when I get back?'"
"Falling Down" from Dig Out Your Soul (2008) imitates the rhythm and drum-focussed sound of "Tomorrow Never Knows"

References/Influences of The Beatles in imagery used by Oasis

The music video for "Supersonic (1994) features the band performing on a rooftop, similar to a famous rooftop concert delivered by The Beatles
The music video for "Shakermaker" (1994) features Liam Gallagher in a record shop, holding the Paul McCartney and Wings LP Red Rose Speedway.
The front cover of the "Live Forever" single (1994) features a photograph of the childhood home of John Lennon.
The cover of "Don't Look Back in Anger" (1995) is a reference to the story when Ringo left The Beatles for a short time, only to be welcomed back with flowers all over his drum set.
The cover for the single "Don't Go Away" (1997) features Liverpool Speke Airport, famous for being the site of The Beatles' return from a major trip to the US, to be mobbed by fans during the "Beatlemania" era.
The Rolls Royce on the cover to Be Here Now (1997) features the same license plate number "(SYD 724F)" as the police van on The Beatles "Abbey Road" album.
The video to "All Around the World" (1997) features the band in white suits similar to those worn by The Beatles for their performance of "Your Mother Should Know" during the film Magical Mystery Tour. Psychedelic, cartoon imagery - similar to that used in music videos by The Beatles - is used throughout, as the band appear to be travelling in a yellow spaceship, a reference to The Beatles song "Yellow Submarine". During the video, the band do in fact come across an actual yellow submarine.





From their wiki page.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87381 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:26 pm to
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You can say a lot of things about Radiohead, but "bland" is not one of them. Complete opposite. How you can look at the video I posted and come to that conclusion is beyond me.
There popular stuff is as bland as it gets. The one you posted was unlistenable noise. I could not make it all the way through.

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Please, post an Oasis song that is unique, new, or in any way musically interesting.

Huh? Almost all of WTSMG. That's a 5 star album if there ever was one. I don't get your take here at all.
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