re: Ace Frehley having a good old fashioned meltdown on Facebook

Saw them last night on one of the first dates of this "last" tour. I was blown away at how good the singing still sounds. Paul should get some credit for essentially sounding the exact same as he did at 25. Whenever all 4 of them sang, it was great.

I hate all the KISS hate. Yes, plagued by some lousy production quality and filler over the years. But they still have a catalogue of 20-25 songs that can be distilled out of the pile and they are great.

Love Gun is a great example of KISS being vilified for doing something in the same vein as ACDC (only much better.) 3/4 of ACDC's songs are complete sophomoric nonsense (Sink the Pink) that hardly even have a melody. Love Gun has an awesome melody, great vocal harmonies, and manages to actually rhythmically invoke the feel of the song title itself. But prep schoolboy outfit good, theatrical face paint bad.

It was a great concert from a great band. Hate away.

This tour is only 3 shows in, and there are already videos out there that document Paul Stanley faking his vocals onstage. It's no wonder why his vocals have magically improved, because he sounded like arse when I saw them in 2014, and I doubt the 5 years in between improved them, lol...

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I consider myself a rock guy and I’ve never spent a dollar on anything related to kiss.

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I’ll be completely honest, if you completely deleted the entire kiss catalogue from history, it would impact my listening habits exactly zero. Kiss fricking sucks.

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This tour is only 3 shows in, and there are already videos out there that document Paul Stanley faking his vocals onstage.

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Link? I'd believe auto tune or some harmonizing tracks, but "faking"? I'd like to see some proof of a claim that extreme. In any event, Gene sounds good too. And the other 2 are even better singers. The new cat guy does Beth by himself at the piano and it was great.

Who goes to a KISS concert for the singing?

They do have a ton of trash songs, but I respect the fact that they were cranking out an album practically every 6 months for a while instead of one every few years like most bands. But while they do have a lot of filler, they have far more really good songs than the overwhelming majority of bands - and several great songs/classics.

I was more of a KISS fan when I was 12 or 13 years old. Once bands like Motley Crue hit the scene, I didn’t listen to KISS much at all. But I’ve always been a fan and still enjoy cranking out stuff like Detroit Rock City and War Machine on my guitar.

And Destroyer is one of the greatest albums of all time.

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They do have a ton of trash songs, but I respect the fact that they were cranking out an album practically every 6 months for a while instead of one every few years like most bands. But while they do have a lot of filler, they have far more really good songs than the overwhelming majority of bands - and several great songs/classics.

I was more of a KISS fan when I was 12 or 13 years old. Once bands like Motley Crue hit the scene, I didn’t listen to KISS much at all. But I’ve always been a fan and still enjoy cranking out stuff like Detroit Rock City and War Machine on my guitar.

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Yep. God of Thunder is awesome too. It's one of the only songs that actually fits the "evil" imagery. Too bad it suffers from muted production. I'd like to hear it recorded with Megadeth style production.

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it is what it is...

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Every act performing live is using the box.

Every...single...one. I'm not saying they're using it all the way on max or that they're using it for every vocal part on every single performance.

BUT, everybody has songs they hate to perform or don't have the chops to do it any longer. (Or the kids that were all image and didn't really have all that much talent in the first place.) And even if the lead diva can pull off most of the duties, the background singing is either pure pantomime or they're on the box.

It's a reality of modern "live" performances. Either live with it or go back to your studio albums. The "live" performance is more of an experience than musical event, anyway.

You baws need to relax and enjoy life, not get turned around on crap like 70 year old rock stars using autotune for live shows.

If a few of y'all would actually watch the video, you'd see this isn't auto tune or backing tracks...this is a pre-recorded LEAD VOCAL. I'd read a comment from the guy who put the YouTube clip together, and he's working on adding the Kiss Kruise version to the video as well, making it an A/B/C comparison, because Paul is faking it there too, all three versions identical.

And frankly, this wouldn't be nearly as much of a big deal, had blowhard Simmons hadn't spent years lambasting other bands/artists for doing the same thing, and/or Simmons & Stanley constantly punching down by publicly criticizing the diminishing skills of former bandmates...

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After all, how could a person as butt ugly as him successfully market himself in both the business world and with chicks?

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He's Jewish and rich would be my answer.