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re: Zack Morris is a little prick

Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:04 pm to
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I never understood the love for Zack. He was constantly selling his friends down the river to get ahead (bayside school song contest), or exploiting them in attempts to make a profit (screech's secret sauce/lucky beret, Hot Sundaes). For someone so good at scheming and plotting, he was a complete moron considering he barely graduated high school. He didn't posess any redeeming qualities other than that awesome cell phone he always had handy.

Bottom line= AC Slater > Zach Morris


You're a real a-hole.

Zack wasn't overly obsessed with grades and getting ahead (Jesse), being a jock meathead (Slater), being rich and fashionable (Lisa), being hot (Kelly) or being a dweeb (Screech), he was just a cool academic underachiever who sometimes manipulated people for his own gain.

Scheming and plotting has nothing to do with grades, see also Jesse who had top grades but was dumb as a rock when it came to understanding PEOPLE.

And the way you overlook his many charitable and selfless acts makes me sick.
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
17078 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Zack wasn't overly obsessed with grades and getting ahead (Jesse),


He wasn't about grades, but Zack was definitely all about getting ahead.

quote:

being rich and fashionable (Lisa),


I can think of plenty of instances where Zack had an idea and his motivation behind it somehow involved him profiting financially. (glee club all expense trip to Hawaii thanks Violet for singing the solo)

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Jesse who had top grades but was dumb as a rock when it came to understanding PEOPLE.


Screech was valedictorian and he was a much bigger buffoon than Jesse will ever be. Jesse was president of the Student Council, so obviously she understood people if she could win that election.

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And the way you overlook his many charitable and selfless acts


such as?

Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:16 pm to
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And the way you overlook his many charitable and selfless acts


such as?
Off the top of my head:

Smacking down the oil guy in favor of Becky

Risking himself to help Slater get out of having to go to West Point

Not kicking the ever-livin shite out of Screech when he tried to provoke him by stomping on his expensive shoes and ripping his expensive shirt

Giving money to that homeless guy at the mall in the Christmas episode

Setting up an outdoor prom for Kelly when she couldn't afford to go to the real prom

and on and on
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

I can think of plenty of instances where Zack had an idea and his motivation behind it somehow involved him profiting financially. (glee club all expense trip to Hawaii thanks Violet for singing the solo)
friendship bracelets treating Lisa like a 4 year old taiwaneese girl slaving.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:26 pm to
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Off the top of my head:

Smacking down the oil guy in favor of Becky

Risking himself to help Slater get out of having to go to West Point

Not kicking the ever-livin shite out of Screech when he tried to provoke him by stomping on his expensive shoes and ripping his expensive shirt

Giving money to that homeless guy at the mall in the Christmas episode

Setting up an outdoor prom for Kelly when she couldn't afford to go to the real prom

and on and on


Despite being intoxicated, driving all of his drunk friends home and then taking the rap.

Getting Kelly out of a party when Dakota tried to get her high.

Telling Kelly about her cheating boyfriend, Jeff.

Not strangling Kelly when she dumped him for that a-hole, Jeff.

Getting Mr. Belding's back, when Belding's brother bailed for the stewardist.

Defending Screech when he was wrongfully accused of playing the prank on Ms. Bliss.

Zack Morris is a saint.


Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
17078 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:28 pm to
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Getting Mr. Belding's back, when Belding's brother bailed for the stewardist.


Ok that one was on this morning and Zack was a complete a-hole to Mr. Belding accusing him of being jealous of his own brother. Zack didn't have Mr. Belding's back until after he found out Rod ditched them for the saucy stewardess Inga.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40377 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:35 pm to
Yea but in the end Zack made it right by saying "we got the better Belding" which made ole Dick Belding feel all warm inside.




Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23079 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:37 pm to
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Despite being intoxicated, driving all of his drunk friends home and then taking the rap.

Getting Kelly out of a party when Dakota tried to get her high.

Telling Kelly about her cheating boyfriend, Jeff.

Not strangling Kelly when she dumped him for that a-hole, Jeff.

Getting Mr. Belding's back, when Belding's brother bailed for the stewardist.

Defending Screech when he was wrongfully accused of playing the prank on Ms. Bliss.

Zack Morris is a saint.



delivering mrs beldings baby

helping lisa do that fashion show

trying to get the class a good deal on their rings (it all worked out)

showing up to lisa bday party even though his heart was broken

to name a few more.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:46 pm to
Running at the track meet to pay tribute to that Indian chief who named him "Running Zack" even though he was heartbroken over his death

Passing up the chance to dance w/ Kelly in the dance contest and instead taking Jesse and helping her get over her insecurity about her height

Dating the handicapped chick, even though he was a little overprotective and uneasy w/ her but his intentions were good.

Let's be honest about what's happening here:

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:53 pm to
Sticking with dances, he danced with the fat chick to make her feel better about herself.

Zack Morris may not have been the perfect human being, but he was damn close.
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
17078 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 3:54 pm to
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Sticking with dances, he danced with the fat chick to make her feel better about herself.


Well she paid $100, Zack could have at least gone to second base with her for that.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Well she paid $100, Zack could have at least gone to second base with her for that.
That money didn't go to him. That was for a charitable cause. And that girl (Wendy) was frickin gargantuan. Going to second would've cost him an appendage.
Posted by jmschamber
The Former West Florida Republic
Member since Apr 2010
673 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:02 pm to
Ima need all the male posters to either not weigh in on this debate, or openly admit they are the ghey! (p.s. Zack and Slater were both a-holes. Kelly and the chick who's dad ran the country club (Leah Remini) are the shiznit)

*Drops the Mic*
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by jrenton
Houston
Member since Mar 2007
1999 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:06 pm to
Zack also helped keep Tori in the closet by pretending to date her.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:08 pm to
Verily, the man has done more to boost women's self esteem than Oprah, Dr. Phil, and the entire Lifetime network combined.

Oh, and nice avatar.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162887 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:09 pm to
was it racist that a black guy only appeared on the show when Lisa was in need of a love interest for an episode?

**aside from the black nerd with the frog voice
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:15 pm to
I never realized how awesome Zack was. Dude might be shady sometimes, but he's quite the charitable person.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:20 pm to
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was it racist that a black guy only appeared on the show when Lisa was in need of a love interest for an episode?

**aside from the black nerd with the frog voice
Eh, not necessarily. The only time they brought in any new people besides the main characters, the nerd crew, Ginger, and Ox (for some reason), was usually so one of the main characters could have a love interest or have a villain for an episode.

And the interests generally catered to everyones taste. As we all know, Zack and Slater (before he went all militant Chicano in College) were generally into blond hair/blue eyed girls and Kelly and Jesse had relationships for most of the show.

Now if they's kept using black guys as the villains, I think that probably would've raised some eyebrows.
Posted by TheGodfather
baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
638 posts
Posted on 7/28/10 at 4:25 pm to
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Rarely did Zack have to stoop to fisticuffs. He operated on a much higher level.


exactly. he just got one of his hoes (kristie barnes) to take care of whoever was giving him shite at the time. then after she whipped a little arse, zack would take her home and knock it down.
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