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re: WSJ: Disney concerned with Star Wars in wake of The Last Jedi

Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:14 pm to
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:14 pm to
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Fox Mulder


Look I get that your insane religious beliefs make you think most of the human population is subhuman and worthy of extermination but please keep this civil.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:16 pm to
Bro it will be OK.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:19 pm to
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If you've read up on the stuff that happens after ROTJ, there definitely wasn't galactic peace right then and there, it took a little while to stomp out the remnants of the empire. Also, Leia was screaming from the mountain tops about the danger of the first order, but the republic didn't want another war so soon and played pacifist with them.


That's nice except when Disney took over they made an announcement that all the books weren't cannon anymore and then they made this trilogy.

You shouldn't have to read a series of novels to understand a movie. They could've just put in a 20 minute flash back showing Leia warning about the First Order, or put it in the title crawl before TFA, or, you know, they could've spent some fricking time showing the Republic home base before Star Killer blew up that solar system, but they didn't, they left all of that out of the movie.

It's been said a few times, but this trilogy is all the boring stuff no one wants. All of the interesting parts aren't in the movies. It's like if they made a fast and the furious movie and when you went to a see it, it was just 2 hours of the guys in the garage ordering car parts on Amazon and sweeping the shop floor, and doing an oil change, and every once in a while someone ran in and was like "Dude, Dom just raced a guy! It was amazing!" but the actual movie never shows the race or why it was important. It's just some dudes loosely connected to the race sitting around a Mechanic Shop.

We never see the most interesring parts of the new story.

Who is Snoke? Who were the Knights of Ren? How did Kylo fall? How did Luke's training go? What happened to the other trainees? What happened to the Republic? How did the First Order get so powerful? How did the Republic fall so fast? Blah blah blah.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:22 pm to
What parts of Episode 9: Heir to the Empire did you not like?
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:24 pm to
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You're a masochist.


I can't help it. I have to watch it again. I'm still holding out hope that I just had a bad experience and everything I think is wrong and I'll watch it a second time and love it.

The only thing I liked more than Star Wars growing up was DragonBall Z. And they fricked that into the ground also with their live action abortion of a movie. But I don't want to talk about that. Ever.

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was never a star wars fan boy in the sense that I didn't buy tons of toys, didn't see the prequels more than once, didn't go to conventions or play online star wars games. But I did really love it when I was little. 



See we differ here. I was 11 when TPM came out and Im not ashamed at all to say that 11 year old me fricking loved that movie. I had the posters on my wall, I had the video games, I had the toys, etc...

Now that movie didn't age all that well with me, but I can still watch it. Ewen McGregor and Liam Neeson were solid, Darth Maul and the duel of the Fates is cool, and I never understood people's constant bitching about the pod race scene. I like the universe it created and it didn't actively destroy anything in my mind as far as the OT is concerned. I can watch it. For all its faults, and the prequels had plenty of faults, it still feels like a star wars movie and it's interesting.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Dragon ball Z


Know how I know your a middle aged white man with a neck beard?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:31 pm to
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What parts of Episode 9: Heir to the Empire did you not like?


Episode 9 isn't out. How would I know what problems it has. Are you insinuating that we'll get answers to all of those questions? Episode 9 will be a prequel to Episode 7?
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Know how I know your a middle aged white man with a neck beard?


I'm in my late 20s and I shave everyday, thank you.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:32 pm to
There’s literally no possible way that’s true.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:33 pm to
Are you Jamie Kilstein from about two years ago?

Reading your posts after listening to the Rogan interview with him makes that question leap to mind.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:34 pm to
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That's nice except when Disney took over they made an announcement that all the books weren't cannon anymore and then they made this trilogy.


The stuff I mentioned is from the new novels and stuff that are now canon, not the old EU.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:34 pm to
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like it's just you don't care about star wars anymore. like you went to a hypnotist and woke up not wanting to ever see one again

Says the guy still posting about the movie 6 weeks after it came out
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:34 pm to
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We never see the most interesring parts of the new story.

Who is Snoke? Who were the Knights of Ren? How did Kylo fall? How did Luke's training go? What happened to the other trainees? What happened to the Republic? How did the First Order get so powerful? How did the Republic fall so fast? Blah blah blah.
Yep, it kind of makes me wonder if they should have actually included any of the characters from the OT.

We wanted sequels, but we wanted to see the COOL stuff that Luke, Leia, Han etc did in their primes. I didn't want to see any of them die, nor do I want to see them washed up at the end.


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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:36 pm to
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The stuff I mentioned is from the new novels and stuff that are now canon, not the old EU.


Good to know. I'll have to read them, but You're telling me Disney sanctioned the writings of an entire series of novels to explain the plotholes and story points they left out of the movies? That just makes it worse.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Yep, it kind of makes me wonder if they should have actually included any of the characters from the OT.

We wanted sequels, but we wanted to see the COOL stuff that Luke, Leia, Han etc did in their primes. I didn't want to see any of them die, nor do I want to see them washed up at the end.



Exactly right, I mentioned this earlier in the thread.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:38 pm to
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Good to know. I'll have to read them, but You're telling me Disney sanctioned the writings of an entire series of novels to explain the plotholes and story points they left out of the movies? That just makes it worse.

Unfortunately yes.

I haven't read them, just the plot summaries from people who have. Bloodline is the book with all the Leia backstory.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:40 pm to
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:43 pm to
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that would mean they read Johnson's script


You think he wrote a script?
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