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re: Would movies like Apollo 13 and series like Band of Brothers be greenlit today?
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:29 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:29 pm to drizztiger
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The gravitational pull from Poli guys to MTV topics is impressive. I mean, if gravity existed, which is up for debate. How bored do you guys get? Seriously, just look at the names and post histories of the posters that needed to chime in here.
You're free to be a clown. No hard feelings.
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:30 pm to ell_13
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I honestly expected some of this but thought I could get some real discussion if I persisted.
I don't think I started it off well with my initial responses, but it's a pretty loaded question that gets "drive-by" asked around here a lot.
I think a few of us are just tired of the question and posters that never contribute here telling us whatever.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:30 pm to Jcorye1
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DEI sucks, but goddamn some of you have lost your mind.
Yes, our culture is being attacked and destroyed. But it's the resistance to that attack that is insane, right?
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:33 pm to Turbeauxdog
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You're free to be a clown. No hard feelings.
See what I mean? I never contribute on MTV.
2004 Poli guy gets bored and decides to call me a clown on MTV.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:37 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Yes, our culture is being attacked and destroyed. But it's the resistance to that attack that is insane, right?
No, and I'm very very anti DEI, but it's turned into this boogieman that people just blame for everything. South Park still exists, hell Daily Wire is making movies now. The fact I can replace half the DEI posts with "guns" and it magically turns into the same argument people use to ban them seems to be a feature not a bug. Is DEI harming the film industry, yes. Would it stop all time mini series and movies from being made now, no.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:00 am to tiggerthetooth
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No it wouldn't because the writers/directors/producers/actors wouldn't fit into the Hollywood DEI/ESG mandates.
You’ll get downvoted and the “moderates” here will howl as if DEI is all right-wing rage porn, yet identity quotas are a real thing and it’s inevitable that they’ll impact casting. Historical productions set in the West will visibly suffer bc we’ll have to have nonsensical and ahistorical diversity.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:49 am to biglego
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yet identity quotas are a real thing and it’s inevitable that they’ll impact casting. Historical productions set in the West will visibly suffer bc we’ll have to have nonsensical and ahistorical diversity.
This is true. But as far as the OP's points/type of shows, stuff can still be made that is like it. I've mentioned it numerous times in this thread, but the most watched show on Apple+ for the past few months has been a show that falls perfectly into this category.
I'd argue that the WW2/war/NASA type movies the OP was talking about will probably remain more accurate than any other genre, especially if you were to compare it to movies and TV shows adapted from works of fiction/fantasy. Can I see a good, historically accurate take on a WW2 story, yes, 100%. Can a see a true to source Tolkien or Asimov film adaption these days, no.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:50 pm to ell_13
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Would movies like Apollo 13 and series like Band of Brothers be greenlit today?
NOPE zero percent chance they could meet the DEI quotas with a series about WWII in Europe
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:10 pm to witty alias
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“Would Oppenheimer even be greenlit today!!?11!eleven!!?”
Some of you are so ridiculous.
Let's assume Christopher Nolan isn't a known quantity with an already established 20-year career: would Oppenheimer have been greenlit?
Next question: Given the current state of Hollywood and forced diversity quotas, what happens when there are no more Christopher Nolans?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:12 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I mean there’s a new show on Apple+ right now called Masters of the Air made by the same people that did Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
This comes off as making the OP's point.
The people who did Band of Brothers and The Pacific have been relegated to Apple+...?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:28 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:This is a silly argument.
The people who did Band of Brothers and The Pacific have been relegated to Apple+..
The show is backed by Playtone and Amblin and has a $250 million dollar budget. It’s not like it’s airing on channel UHF 58 as a 2am infomercial.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:31 pm to imjustafatkid
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This comes off as making the OP's point.
The people who did Band of Brothers and The Pacific have been relegated to Apple+...?
No it doesn't
HBO wanted to produce Masters of the Air but Apple+ gave them a bigger budget. John Orioff came out and said that HBO wanted Masters of the Air bad. Apple+ has been putting out a lot of good stuff and even Apple Films is snatching big names. You think people are looking down on Martin Scorsese because he went with Apple Films for Killers of the Flower moon? "Relegated to Apple" isn't a thing that you think it is. They chose Apple.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 4:11 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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HBO wanted to produce Masters of the Air but Apple+ gave them a bigger budget. John Orioff came out and said that HBO wanted Masters of the Air bad. Apple+ has been putting out a lot of good stuff and even Apple Films is snatching big names. You think people are looking down on Martin Scorsese because he went with Apple Films for Killers of the Flower moon? "Relegated to Apple" isn't a thing that you think it is. They chose Apple.
I'm a really glad to hear that. Glad to see they got a deal deserving of their talent. Still, Apple+ is "being relegated" in the minds of most. Seems short sighted on their part.
Even so, this is an example of "big names" (known quantities) similar to Chris Nolan. Where are the creators who aren't known quantities who are getting films/shows greenlit by Hollywood?
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 3/25/24 at 4:20 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:This is why discussions like this are useless. It doesn’t matter what someone else says, everyone just goes back to their original thoughts.
Still, Apple+ is "being relegated" in the minds of most. Seems short sighted on their part.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 4:26 pm to ell_13
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Apollo 13
Whitest movie in the last 30 years. I think you can skirt the mandatory rules of DEI if your claim is historical accuracy... But then again look at Cleopatra.
Band of Brothers would be a hoot today. Lesbian Colonels, Asian officers, half the regiment black and some gay white dude in a wheelchair out on the front lines.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 4:32 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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You think people are looking down on Martin Scorsese because he went with Apple Films for Killers of the Flower moon? "Relegated to Apple" isn't a thing that you think it is.
There’s the issue. You’re assuming fatkid thinks before he posts.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:58 pm to imjustafatkid
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Where are the creators who aren't known quantities who are getting films/shows greenlit by Hollywood?
You've previously heard to the creator/writer/director of every single current film/tv project?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:07 pm to ell_13
The shite some of y'all think up just to stay mad is hilarious.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:14 pm to ISEN_AG
What makes you think I’m mad? Did you read the thread?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:17 pm to ell_13
Mark Wahlberg is staring in a film based on a true story where he befriends a wounded stray dog on an adventure race.
So yeah, those movies would get green lit today and they haven’t stopped.
So yeah, those movies would get green lit today and they haven’t stopped.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 6:18 pm
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