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re: Why was the She-Hulk origin changed? (Long)
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
We all knew this show would be woke garbage. Why are y'all watching it at all?
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Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:59 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I don't really think it makes or breaks the show in any way.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:54 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I'm an originalist, so I can agree with wanting to see her comic origin played out on-screen.
The problem is, we're talking about two different She-Hulks.
The original one is really just a female Hulk.
Fast-forward almost a decade and her original comic ended but a new one began. This one went away from the normal serious fare for a more light-hearted and comedic take.
This tv show is the latter She-Hulk (so "Sensational" instead of "Savage"). Doing an origin story for the lighter version would work with the mob hit, but changing it up to be a bit lighter (as well as working in Bruce going back off-planet) works just as well.
Don't get me wrong, I thought it was phoned-in bullshite writing but considering the overall tone of the show it's not something I would list as a top peeve (that's still the CGI).
The problem is, we're talking about two different She-Hulks.
The original one is really just a female Hulk.
Fast-forward almost a decade and her original comic ended but a new one began. This one went away from the normal serious fare for a more light-hearted and comedic take.
This tv show is the latter She-Hulk (so "Sensational" instead of "Savage"). Doing an origin story for the lighter version would work with the mob hit, but changing it up to be a bit lighter (as well as working in Bruce going back off-planet) works just as well.
Don't get me wrong, I thought it was phoned-in bullshite writing but considering the overall tone of the show it's not something I would list as a top peeve (that's still the CGI).
Posted on 8/27/22 at 8:21 pm to SpqrTiger
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Or that it dismisses masculinity? Yikes. You’re reading too far into this
Ten years ago I would have strongly agreed.
Now I feel like the exact opposite.
Misandry turns out to be the core value of the majority of new content for the Marvel and Star Wars universes under Disney.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 8:56 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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You would have to set up a ton of backstory," Gao explained. "You can’t just drop that in. We really wanted to get going, we didn’t want to spend half an hour setting up why this happened
Actually I think this is a GREAT reason. I don’t GAF how she got her powers and I hate it when origin stories drag needlessly. A mob hit isn’t that interesting anyway and yes, it’s a snarky fast-paced show with short episodes that does need to jump right in to the story. Blood transfusion or accidental blood droplets from Hulk, either way it was the Hulk’s blood.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 8:59 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Exactly. Gao's excuse was that the mob hit would have "required too much precious time" and too much backstory. Ok, forget the mob hit, a random mugging/disgruntled client/even a car accident would work just fine. Problem solved.
So you don’t actually care if it’s a mob hit then? You’re ok with changing the source material after all, but you just need it to be a transfusion? Why does it matter so much how the blood gets done?
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:56 pm to biglego
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Why does it matter so much how the blood gets done?
If it didn't matter, the writers would have found a faster way to have Bruce give her the transfusion to save her life.
Here, I'll fix it. Instead of him wearing the never before heard of bullshite device on his wrist to keep him from changing into Hulk, they get into the same car accident and you see her injured in the accident, he Hulks out but she's unresponsive at the scene and you see him pick her up and take off. Cut to the hospital with her waking up and she looks fine. He then explains that she was dying and he had to quickly make the decision to give her a transfusion and save her life but infect her with the Hulk blood, or let her die. Easy peasy. But doing this keeps him the hero, which is no good here. Funny part is, they could have gone this route and STILL made it all feminist if they wanted, because they could then have her openly blaming him for her situation. But, they preferred to have her get Hulk juice via her own heroic self sacrifice and still allow her to bitch at him for it.
Asking why it matters is like asking why it matters there are now beardless black female dwarves in Tolkien, etc. If it didn't matter at all, creators would stop changing things and keep the spirit of the source material as is. The fact that they DO keep altering things tells you how much it really does matter.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 5:08 pm to biglego
quote:I agree somewhat with you, the mob storyline would have been over the top and too much, just not necessary. I like what they did with this origin story, it's much more simpler and believable to me. To me it makes sense that Banner creates a device to make himself human again after being stuck in Dr Hulk or Professor Hulk form for so long. He would want to be human again to hangout with his family (namely cousin Jen) and not hurt anybody as the Hulk. But it happens anyways because of the car accident and his gamma blood transforming her. I just don't like the direction they're going with Emil Blonsky/Abomination character, but we'll see where it goes or what happens.
A mob hit isn't that interesting anyway and yes, it's a snarky fast-paced show with short episodes that does need to jump right into the story.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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The Rick and Morty writer then went on to say that establishing Jennifer's origins from the comics would have taken up too much precious time, especially when the writing team was more interested in exploring how the thirtysomething lawyer would deal with her newfound powers rather than how she obtained them. "You would have to set up a ton of backstory," Gao explained. "You can’t just drop that in. We really wanted to get going, we didn’t want to spend half an hour setting up why this happened. [...] The interesting part for us was watching this woman deal with all this and try to process it."
They sped through Spider-Man's origin in the MCU and pulled it off nicely. None of the MCU films give the backstory of how he got his powers. It's briefly mentioned. They could have done the same for She-Hulk if they got creative.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:05 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Gao
is a huge piece of shite and high from smelling farts.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:08 am to Vols&Shaft83
It can't be that easy to "make" a hulk. I think that's what they were trying to avoid.
This way his blood is lethal but only a genetic rarity allows someone to become a hulk.
This way his blood is lethal but only a genetic rarity allows someone to become a hulk.
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