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Why doesn't Hollywood make 80s style campy action movies anymore?
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:52 am
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:55 am to Goonie02
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Why doesn't Hollywood make 80s style campy action movies anymore?
Cynicism seems to be more popular with creators today.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:56 am to Goonie02
Those have been replaced with action/comedy comic book movies.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:56 am to Goonie02
Fast and Furious franchise checking in.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:57 am to Goonie02
Those are all straight to video/netflix/amazon now.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:59 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Cynicism seems to be more popular with creators today.
150% this.
Campy action movies and true adventure movies fell by the wayside because they often require sincerity.
Our culture now generally sucks.
That and we have decided that heroes, good heroes who do the right thing because it's the right thing, are uninteresting. And that morally gray heroes are superior, more complex, etc. I've gone from finding this annoying, to finding it emblematic of a decaying culture.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:00 pm to GeauxTigerTM
damn shame man. Robocop and even Escape from LA are pretty fun action flicks mixed in with satire and social commentary.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:01 pm to Freauxzen
I think it has more to do with studios being more risk averse and sticking with existing franchises with built in fanbases offering more guaranteed returns rather than gambling on unknown properties.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:04 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Fast and Furious franchise checking in.
I don't mind fast and furious, been waiting for a sequel to Tokyo Drift but they aren't focused on racing anymore.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:05 pm to Goonie02
I’ve been waiting for “Big Trouble in Little China 2: Burton’s Boogaloo” for almost 35 years now.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:05 pm to Goonie02
Our society as a whole is too dumb to understand camp. It would get destroyed on Rotten Tomato's and/or not make studios a billion dollars, so they won't ever see the light of day.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:05 pm to Goonie02
Because you can't duplicate the '80s. Sure, they do '80s nostalgia stuff like Stranger Things, but that time and place is gone.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:06 pm to kingbob
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I think it has more to do with studios being more risk averse and sticking with existing franchises with built in fanbases offering more guaranteed returns rather than gambling on unknown properties.
Na, this is just another symptom. And look what they do with most of that....they require the new version of the old thing to.... "subvert expectations." Because they don't think we should get the thing we expect. Which is another component of this need to ignore the obvious, to make sure that our world is constantly shaken rather than constantly reinforced.
And yes, I'll admit, I'm probably making this out to be a much larger problem than the OP intended. But cultural productions are cultural markers. And they matter to a degree, especially to see the health of a culture.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:22 pm to Freauxzen
What I see is a major shift in allocated resources around the same time that streaming started becoming a popular option for watching movies and as video gaming increased as a percent share of the American entertainment gdp pie. Starting around 2008, the diversity of kinds of movies being made and marketed for wide release dwindled. First to go were the sweeping swashbuckling historical epics, then the goofy comedies, then the shoot ‘em up action movies, and the rom coms. By 2019, there were only about 6 kinds of movies left in theaters: 1. Low budget horror, 2. Woke Oscar bait, 3. High budget adaptation, sequel, or remake to an existing comic book scify or fantasy franchise, 4. Lowish budget comedy with a mostly black cast, 5. CGI adventure movie starring The Rock, 6. Animated kids movie, probably by Pixar or Dreamworks.
Studios figured out that some things almost always sell at least a little bit, and people only want to go to the theaters for spectacle or to pacify their kids for 90 minutes. Otherwise, people would rather stream it. So, they save all their money and bankable stars for the tent poles and unload the rest of the schlock on Netflix with poor production value and unknown actors.
Studios figured out that some things almost always sell at least a little bit, and people only want to go to the theaters for spectacle or to pacify their kids for 90 minutes. Otherwise, people would rather stream it. So, they save all their money and bankable stars for the tent poles and unload the rest of the schlock on Netflix with poor production value and unknown actors.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:24 pm to Goonie02
All those comic movies aren't campy enough for you?
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:50 pm to Cdawg
All those comic movies aren't campy enough for you?
comic book movies are too formulaic to be campy. All Marvel movies are the same.
comic book movies are too formulaic to be campy. All Marvel movies are the same.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:57 pm to Goonie02
Masculinity is toxic these days.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:57 pm to Goonie02
They’re really not. The first and third Thor movies are night and day in tone. Same with the first and second Captain America movie. A lot of Marvel movies are similar visually and the heroes tend to be quippy, but there is some significant variety in tone.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:01 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Those are all straight to video/netflix/amazon now.
Where, to be honest, they've found a new lease on life. Enola Holmes, for example, is the sort of low to mid budget movie that made the studios rich in the 80s.
People have noted that while the big studios still make very big movies (and buy up very small movies to release) they've gotten away from those medium movies, even though there seems to be a happy market for them online.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:03 pm to kingbob
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They’re really not. The first and third Thor movies are night and day in tone. Same with the first and second Captain America movie. A lot of Marvel movies are similar visually and the heroes tend to be quippy, but there is some significant variety in tone
I haven't seen any of the Thor movies. I watched half of the first Captain America movie and turned it off because of how boring it was. Haven't seen the second Captain America movie. I've seen the first Avenger and 2nd Avenger, not really good movies especially the 2nd one. Ironman is the only good Marvel movie in my opinion, the sequels were trash. all in all they are all similar movies that are produced in a factory.
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