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re: Why are the SW prequels fair game for criticism, but TFA somehow sacred?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:10 am to blueboy
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:10 am to blueboy
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"We wrote these characters but when we went to cast it, one of the things I had felt, having been to the Emmys a couple times — you look around that room and you see the whitest fricking room in the history of time. Its just unbelievably white. And I just thought, we’re casting this show and we have an opportunity to do anything we want, why not cast the show with actors of color?"
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:14 am to AlxTgr
Plot twist.
Kylo Ren will use xir disfigurement to transition into the gender xe feels xe is and will come out in episode 8 as Kylie Ren.
Kylo Ren will use xir disfigurement to transition into the gender xe feels xe is and will come out in episode 8 as Kylie Ren.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:18 am to fr33manator
You're being petty. And you wonder why people are bashing you.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:22 am to SpqrTiger
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They don't have to be phased out. But they are. Why?
Phased out in the OT? Proof, please.
In the OT, all the Stormtroopers are the same height and build, have the same voice and the same generic number/names. "Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" implies that they are all THE SAME. We never see one without a helmet. We never see one with a proper name. We never see anything that indicates that they AREN'T the same clones we saw in the prequels. In fact, the evidence on-screen suggests they ARE.
Because what George did with the Clone Wars is the single worst idea for a war of all time. Worthless clones vs worthless droids, all bred for war. Aside from the Jedi, I don't know who was affected by the Clone Wars at all. There's no way George planned for the Stormtroopers to be the clones. Next to having a good main character and bringing the Force back to its origins, that was the next thing on the list that Abrams had to check off on. Just an awful concept.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:23 am to AlxTgr
quote:Yep. JJ is just a little SJW hack. He couldn't resist.
"We wrote these characters but when we went to cast it, one of the things I had felt, having been to the Emmys a couple times — you look around that room and you see the whitest fricking room in the history of time. Its just unbelievably white. And I just thought, we’re casting this show and we have an opportunity to do anything we want, why not cast the show with actors of color?"
But Boyega is a decent actor. If they didn't give him stupid, patronizing shite to say like "droid, please" he would have been a more engaging character.
quote:You joke, but it really wouldn't surprise me if there's a gay relationship in the next one.
Kylie Ren
But it's Star Wars and will make a fortune regardless, so they'll feel vindicated.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:26 am to blueboy
I am laughing at you guys so much… there has been a gay relationship in Star Wars from the very beginning. 
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:27 am to blueboy
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But it's Star Wars and will make a fortune regardless, so they'll feel vindicated.
You've said this bullshite literally 500x since the movie came out.
You're like Michael fricking Bolton in Good Will Hunting.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:27 am to SoGaFan
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there has been a gay relationship in Star Wars from the very beginning.
Vader and Palpatine with their May-December thing going on?
Death Star 2.0-killed by a lover's spat.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:37 am to fr33manator
quote:I think he means R2 and 3PO.
Vader and Palpatine with their May-December thing going on?
The gay robots from Star Wars
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:39 am to fr33manator
quote:
It's canon.
Noted. Thank you for the info.
What is your take on whether the Clonetroopers were changed to Stormtroopers just to cast a black actor?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 12:43 pm to AlxTgr
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me?
Uh no.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 12:46 pm to Methuselah
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Clonetroopers were changed to Stormtroopers just to cast a black actor?
I thought it was pretty well known they did this because the clones started to be hard to control and shite and having major side effects so the First Order starting snatching up babies across the galaxy.
But I also thought Kylo was like 15 so don't trust my word.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:04 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Wait. People were under the impression that the stormtroopers in the OT were clones?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:20 pm to Methuselah
quote:
What is your take on whether the Clonetroopers were changed to Stormtroopers just to cast a black actor?
What? No.
The Stormtroopers weren't clones by the OT.
If I recall from the Battlefront 2 game, after the clone wars the Stormtroopers were formed. Called Vader's Fist, they actually battled the remnants of the Clone troopers on Kamino and wiped them out.
Man, the new battlefront needed a campaign mode so bad.
Back on track.
Boyega was cast as a diversity hire, As was "captain Phasma", per the quote earlier about the Emmy's.
Not that either of them are bad actors, but the roles weren't well written and felt inserted.
I've been struggling to find any reason other than diversity hire that they were cast and written like they were.
But...
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:29 pm to pvilleguru
quote:I guess if you came into the mix during or after the prequels, it could be what you think.
Wait. People were under the impression that the stormtroopers in the OT were clones?
Myself, I never cared for that concept. When Ben and Luke discuss his father fighting in the Clone Wars, I never, ever took that to mean the clones were on the 'good' side. The very title suggests they fought AGAINST the clones, or against cloning.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:41 pm to fr33manator
quote:This is the problem. "Diversity hire" could mean that they hired an individual for the sole sake of diversity alone, not unlike the SJW movement.
Boyega was cast as a diversity hire, As was "captain Phasma", per the quote earlier about the Emmy's.
A "diversity hire" could also mean that they hired an individual because the "diversity" would broaden the appeal to other viewer demographics, like women and African-Americans.
The former has little substantive purpose, while the latter would be based on a business decision and have a substantive purpose. So resisting anything that isn't "diverse" without any regard for the substance, is just as ignorant as dismissing "diversity" without any regard for the substance.
In other words, taking the polar opposite stance of the SJWs on an issue, yet using their same poor logic, makes one no better than the SJWs themselves.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:54 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:Agree. I don't think it's social justice, per se. I think it's marketing posing as social justice. Still, "droid please" was just patronizing, and if I were black, I'd have been kind of offended by that.
The former has little substantive purpose, while the latter would be based on a business decision and have a substantive purpose. So resisting anything that isn't "diverse" without any regard for the substance, is just as ignorant as dismissing "diversity" without any regard for the substance.
And if Finn and Rey hook up, that's a bad business decision. It's a dirty little secret that the Asian markets are really turned off by interracial relationships and don't care for American black people. Finn is a actually shrunken down in the poster they released to those markets.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:59 pm to blueboy
Soul Brother too beaucoup?
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:05 pm to fr33manator
Dude, I used to live in a pretty heavily Asian suburb of DC. Asians can't stand black people.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 5:46 pm to blueboy
Does that make them waicist?
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