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re: Wheel of Time - Season 1 - Amazon - NOW A BOOK READERS THREAD
Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:52 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:52 pm to Fun Bunch
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And Nynaeve and Egwene are like prodigies with immense power, and Rand barely existed as a character and doesn't come across that strong.
And if these two have to be the central characters, at least have pretty actresses for us to look at, since both characters are described as being pretty in the books. Especially Egwene, my god this actress is not even attractive. Could they have at least removed that mole? JFC a five minute procedure with any dermatologist could solve that. It’s distracting.
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:58 pm to Fun Bunch
Bc there weren’t already enough book characters 
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:21 pm to biglego
Copy/Paste from book board thread bc some of yall don't post over there.
This is where this show will dissipate.
Us GoT book readers wouldnt shut the frick up about the series until it caught so much hype it became a pop culture phenomenon. I had group texts will all my non reader friends who would ask me countless questions every episode, helping them understand what was going on. Go look at the views for each season. It just kept building. Watch parties were fairly common, where we would have the show on one TV and whatever NFL game was on the other.
WoT books are outstanding to me. I told some of those same friends about this show and they were excited to check it out. They are pretty much making fun of it at this point.
I'll continue to watch, but absolutely will not be trying to get others on board, as it is NOT that great. I just don't understand WHY the plot inconveniently misses opportunities to make sense. A few that stood out to me during finale:
1. Why wouldn't Loial/Perrin wreck shop on the horn stealers, only to have Fain get away at the last second with it. It would have been a great transition from Perrin the weak to Perrin the angry. We kept seeing Perrin looking at the axe. Are we supposed to believe he is buying into the Tinker's theology about no violence, after he was tortured? This would have added another character that non-readers could root for, instead of making him look like a giant pussy the entire season. Put him in wolf rage and just wreak havoc.
2. Loial is not a giant. The scenes with him and Perrin make them almost eye level. This makes no sense, as you could have easily made him 7ft tall or more, by having a taller actor, or some forced perspective. This is not expensive to pull off. It seems in the show Loial was just for fan service and will be disposed of.
3. Lan - where to start? I guess we needed another weak male side plot. Arguably the best swordsman in Rand Land spends the last few episodes touching women's faces.
4. Tarwins gap. I don't care if Eg healed Nyn, at all. What I do care is, why on earth was the gate so ill equiped, and why the hell weren't channelers on top of, or above, the actual gate? I guess they needed to kill off more men, to make room for strong independent women
5. Seanchans - wife turned to me and said "that made no sense, are they good or bad". Fade to black.
edit: forgot the cold opening. It was season 1 Battlestar Galactica level of bad CGI
This is where this show will dissipate.
Us GoT book readers wouldnt shut the frick up about the series until it caught so much hype it became a pop culture phenomenon. I had group texts will all my non reader friends who would ask me countless questions every episode, helping them understand what was going on. Go look at the views for each season. It just kept building. Watch parties were fairly common, where we would have the show on one TV and whatever NFL game was on the other.
WoT books are outstanding to me. I told some of those same friends about this show and they were excited to check it out. They are pretty much making fun of it at this point.
I'll continue to watch, but absolutely will not be trying to get others on board, as it is NOT that great. I just don't understand WHY the plot inconveniently misses opportunities to make sense. A few that stood out to me during finale:
1. Why wouldn't Loial/Perrin wreck shop on the horn stealers, only to have Fain get away at the last second with it. It would have been a great transition from Perrin the weak to Perrin the angry. We kept seeing Perrin looking at the axe. Are we supposed to believe he is buying into the Tinker's theology about no violence, after he was tortured? This would have added another character that non-readers could root for, instead of making him look like a giant pussy the entire season. Put him in wolf rage and just wreak havoc.
2. Loial is not a giant. The scenes with him and Perrin make them almost eye level. This makes no sense, as you could have easily made him 7ft tall or more, by having a taller actor, or some forced perspective. This is not expensive to pull off. It seems in the show Loial was just for fan service and will be disposed of.
3. Lan - where to start? I guess we needed another weak male side plot. Arguably the best swordsman in Rand Land spends the last few episodes touching women's faces.
4. Tarwins gap. I don't care if Eg healed Nyn, at all. What I do care is, why on earth was the gate so ill equiped, and why the hell weren't channelers on top of, or above, the actual gate? I guess they needed to kill off more men, to make room for strong independent women
5. Seanchans - wife turned to me and said "that made no sense, are they good or bad". Fade to black.
edit: forgot the cold opening. It was season 1 Battlestar Galactica level of bad CGI
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:02 pm to YumYum Sauce
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5. Seanchans - wife turned to me and said "that made no sense, are they good or bad"
Don't forget the ball gags as A'dam
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:12 pm to YumYum Sauce
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Loial is not a giant.
This is one of those little things the show could’ve gotten right with not a lot of extra work or expense. There must be a super tall actor out there. The guy who played Mountain still exists.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:16 pm to YumYum Sauce
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Lan - where to start? I guess we needed another weak male side plot. Arguably the best swordsman in Rand Land spends the last few episodes touching women's faces.
Someone said Lan was given more emotion/chattiness Bc his stoic demeanor would not translate well to the show. Maybe so, but I think a more laconic, grim, menacing Lan who always looks ready to gut someone would’ve been just fine.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:17 pm to biglego
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There must be a super tall actor out there. The guy who played Mountain still exists.
I'd rather them do editing tricks than just hire a tall actor. I like the guy playin Loial. I think he fits his tone well.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:17 pm to biglego
The guy who plays him is 6'3" I think, he's not exactly small.
An ogier not being 8 feet tall is a pretty dumb complaint. Who cares?
That's not the kind of shite anyone should care about. Honestly Loial was probably one of the top 5 best things about this show.
An ogier not being 8 feet tall is a pretty dumb complaint. Who cares?
That's not the kind of shite anyone should care about. Honestly Loial was probably one of the top 5 best things about this show.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:21 pm to Fun Bunch
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Honestly Loial was probably one of the top 5 best things about this show.
Fun, I enjoy your zeal for the books and appreciate your work in these threads, but I find myself disagreeing with you on a lot. While I think the actor fit Loial, he was essentially pointless to the story. He had three main roles in EotW. He provided backstory on the world. He lead them through the Waypoints. He played a part in the end at the EotW with the Green Man. He didn't really do any of that in this season. He was just there. They didn't even give him the decency of dying (if he is dead) well. We didn't even get to see how he got overtaken.
This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:23 pm to DestrehanTiger
I'm talking about Loial himself, not what they had him do.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 3:01 pm to Fun Bunch
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An ogier not being 8 feet tall is a pretty dumb complaint. Who cares?
Don't think you understood what I was getting at. It's kind of obvious he probably won't be a big part of the show, and is only there for fan service in this adaptation. If he were a central supporting character, he'd need to be big, ugly, and unique. He's just a hippy Perrin at this point.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 4:09 pm to NimbleCat
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What a Cleveland Steamer this series has evolved into.
It's worse than that.
I think they went into the first season with a storyline that had a potential ending in case it didn't get picked up. It sucked so hard.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 4:29 pm to LSUBoo
It was renewed for S2 long before they filmed episode 8.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 4:50 pm to Fun Bunch
That makes it much worse.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 4:50 pm to Broken Coyote
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Not one character was adapted from the novels.
The actress that plays Alanna said, "In this first season I didn't want to read too much because I wanted to get my feet in, and make her mine. And now, I can play with her. Now when I read the books, I won't be influenced by her persona in the books. This gives me the opportunity to create her and play her." Then Rafe said in an interview recently "deaths are coming for characters that don't die in the books."
I was so excited for this series but it's just not Wheel of Time.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 4:52 pm to MFn GIMP
Finishing up episode 8 all I gotta say is… I’m done
Posted on 12/27/21 at 5:37 pm to MFn GIMP
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I was so excited for this series but it's just not Wheel of Time.
It most certainly *IS* the Wheel of Time, and if you can't ignore my blatant changes to make it my personal fan fic, you're just a racist.
The fun part is that all of us, book readers, rabid fans, etc. etc. know Tuon is in fact black. To portray her as anything else is shitting on the source material.
Any yet we all know, with 100% certainty, that Tuon will in fact be played by an African American actress.
Now, here is the challenge. I challenge you to find a character in the current series that is desribed as "swarthy", "black", "dark skinnned", etc. who is played by a lily white actor or actress.
So very odd that the standard goes one way, and yet not another.
Why is that?
Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:01 pm to MFn GIMP
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"In this first season I didn't want to read too much because I wanted to get my feet in, and make her mine. And now, I can play with her. Now when I read the books, I won't be influenced by her persona in the books. This gives me the opportunity to create her and play her."
Is this real?
Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:11 pm to Mystery
That's probably real... but it also shouldn't matter if the character is written properly.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:19 pm to Fun Bunch
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Did they really need to spend two episodes on an irrelevant Warder?
They spent two episodes on funeral processes it was fricking laughable Z
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