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re: What’s the end game for all the students in Hogwarts?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:13 pm to finchmeister08
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:13 pm to finchmeister08
They can use magic whenever they want when they're adults. They risk breaking the Statute of Secrecy, but they're fine as long as they don't get caught (by the Ministry, a full-fledged witch or wizard could easily perform a memory charm on some Muggle who turned the corner to see a wizard using magic).
A lot of wizarding families live outside of urban developments (like the Weasleys, Lovegoods, Diggorys, or Malfoys) to keep the risk of being discovered down. Muggle repelling charms and the like here and there make it fairly easy not to get caught out for these types. Most villages have both muggles and wizarding inhabitants, but Hogsmeade is an example of a village where the residents can use magic anytime they want. There are no muggles there, and with the protective spells around it, there never will be. Other villages, like Godric's Hallow, are known to have a huge (comparatively) wizarding population. I'm sure they work together to use magic and keep it concealed from the muggles. Wizards who live in an urban area seem to take more extreme measures to conceal their magic, but they do use it. Number 12 Grimmauld Place is unplottable, has a secret-keeper, is bewitched to be unnoticed by muggles, etc.
A lot of wizarding families live outside of urban developments (like the Weasleys, Lovegoods, Diggorys, or Malfoys) to keep the risk of being discovered down. Muggle repelling charms and the like here and there make it fairly easy not to get caught out for these types. Most villages have both muggles and wizarding inhabitants, but Hogsmeade is an example of a village where the residents can use magic anytime they want. There are no muggles there, and with the protective spells around it, there never will be. Other villages, like Godric's Hallow, are known to have a huge (comparatively) wizarding population. I'm sure they work together to use magic and keep it concealed from the muggles. Wizards who live in an urban area seem to take more extreme measures to conceal their magic, but they do use it. Number 12 Grimmauld Place is unplottable, has a secret-keeper, is bewitched to be unnoticed by muggles, etc.
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:05 am to Peazey
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They are not being prepared for life with normal people. They live in a world almost completely separate from normal people and only tangentially touching it. They can use all the magic they want in their own world.
quote:I think these two statements, together, make the most sense.
It is no different than going to boarding school.
If you go away to an elite boarding school, odds are you wouldn't fit in with middle-class (normal) people, in real life. However, it opens up a "magical" elite and exclusive upper-class world to you, that the guy who goes to Hometown High has no access to, and likely doesn't know exists.
These kids from Hogwarts have huge advantages over Muggles when it comes to business and politics, even without directly charming their partners, they have much more access to info and are more efficient. They're able to "get things done". That, and they're networked just like any elite school is. I'm sure they live well.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:08 am to Scoob
The books do a much better job addressing this than the movie. They explain a lot more about magical careers and life after Hogwarts. Just not enough time in the movies to cover stuff like that.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 6:09 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:20 am to Wild Thang
Underage wizards can't use any magic at all on break outside of school can they?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:19 am to finchmeister08
They can use in every day life just not with muggles or nonmages.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:21 am to finchmeister08
Pretty simple, they don't use magic around normal people because then this happens
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:31 am to finchmeister08
I've always just wondered why they don't have to take any math or English classes. Even wizards need that.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:35 am to finchmeister08
Not getting jobs in the real world because no one taught them basic math or literacy skills.
Seriously, those kids wouldn't be able to balance their checkbooks.
Seriously, those kids wouldn't be able to balance their checkbooks.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:36 am to GeauxHouston
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Underage wizards can't use any magic at all on break outside of school can they?
They are not suppose to use magic outside of school. If they can get away with it depends on where they live.
If they live with a magic family that actively uses magic, it's up to the parents to keep track of their kids and keep them from using magic.
If they live with muggles, they have a trace charm put on them. If any magic is used in the vincinity of this person, the government knows about it. This trace wasn't fully explained how it was deactivated when Harry went to the Weasley's.
In the movies, Harry does magic practicing in his bedroom at night, this does not happen in the books and shouldn't of ever been in the movie. The books also had a lot of issues with the trace, like Voldy killing his father/family before he was of age and Hermione talking about doing spells before her first year.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:37 am to skrayper
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Not getting jobs in the real world because no one taught them basic math or literacy skills. Seriously, those kids wouldn't be able to balance their checkbooks.
They talk about this in the books, Ron only passes his road driving test because he puts a spell on the person giving the test.
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I've always just wondered why they don't have to take any math or English classes. Even wizards need that.
They have some of these skills because they go to regular school til 11 years old. English shouldn't be an issue since they constantly write reports and have to learn grammar and such to complete them.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:39 am to tenderfoot tigah
Don't most of them work for Ministry of Magic and then normal jobs in real world to blend in.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:58 am to biglego
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What happens in the real world while the kids are at Hogwarts? All these kids go missing suddenly. When they return to the real world, they haven’t gone to normal school, or do they?
Just something never really touched on in the movies. Basically at some point, with events like witch burnings and whatnot, there was a treaty put into place basically making it a crime to perform magic in front of "muggles". Also, there were some dark wizards who felt that it was the wizarding race's responsibility to rule over the non-magic populous, so hard restrictions had to be put into place. There were people who's sole job was to keep dragons out of sight of the public. You have spells like the imperious curse that can make a person do your will, cruciatos(sic) that can torture a person, and the killing curse. Nothing that a non-magical person could defend themselves against, so they have be protected and kept naive to it all.
Hagrid mentions something about it in the first movie, I think. "Everyone would want magical solutions to their problems." So another part of it is to keep themselves from being magical do-gooders.
As far as the education, I'm sure some of them work regular jobs, but there are a lot of positions in the magical world for them as well. A big problem with mixing with the general public is a lot of witches and wizards just aren't capable of blending in. They all pretty much wear robes and pointy hats, and any time they try to look like a muggle, a lot of times it's a hodge podge mess. The Goblet of Fire is a good example of that.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:02 am to finchmeister08
There’s a lot of shite that doesn’t make sense in HP’s world. Like how in the world could Potions be more important than math and English?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:09 am to OMLandshark
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There’s a lot of shite that doesn’t make sense in HP’s world. Like how in the world could Potions be more important than math and English?
I've often wondered this, and I think these are either classes that don't mentioned or they learn these skills in other manners. Math is probably a big component in doing potions.
But again, witches and wizards are going to lead different lives from muggles. Learning trig probably isn't all that important. But they are writing papers all the time so English is surely taught in some fashion.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:26 am to OMLandshark
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There’s a lot of shite that doesn’t make sense in HP’s world. Like how in the world could Potions be more important than math and English?
Because when you can duplicate food if you already have food, it doesn't really matter if you know algebra. Magic seems to have replaced technology in the wizarding world. Instead of using computers and cell phones, they send owls and paper airplanes to communicate with each other.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:34 am to Dam Guide
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Because when you can duplicate food if you already have food, it doesn't really matter if you know algebra
So they don’t take inventory of anything? Do they have to rely solely on goblins to make sure their checkbook is balanced?
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Magic seems to have replaced technology in the wizarding world. Instead of using computers and cell phones, they send owls and paper airplanes to communicate with each other.
But there’s still journalism in HP’s world. Where do they learn that from?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:39 am to Dam Guide
I don't think they can duplicate food.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:43 am to bbap
Isn’t there an entire class dedicated to transforming objects into food and vice versa?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:53 am to OMLandshark
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So they don’t take inventory of anything? Do they have to rely solely on goblins to make sure their checkbook is balanced?
I agree it's not the best world in regards to this. Lots of issues with it. Probably just use magic to keep track of things. Their entire money system is complete garbage, lots of flaws there that several people have written about.
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But there’s still journalism in HP’s world. Where do they learn that from?
Let's look at Rita Skeeter, she has a magical notebook and a quick quotes quill that writes down her interviews in the books.
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I don't think they can duplicate food.
It's mentioned a few times as one of exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration. You cannot create it out of thin air, but you can transfigure it if you know where it's at or you can increase the quantity of it.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:30 pm to finchmeister08
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I’m headed to universal
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for Christmas
I'll see you there!
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