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re: What do we think about the major criticism of "The Joker"
Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:48 pm to kale
Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:48 pm to kale
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Makes joker look like creepy loser incel who rises up and sticks it to liberal society, which all those types of guys will eat and praise they same way they praise Durden, and Bateman
Either you don't know what an Incel is or you've never seen Fight Club and American Psycho
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:56 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I never wanted a Joker origin story.
I never wanted a remake of The Lion King.
Just don’t see it.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:15 pm to abellsujr
quote:while I ultimately agree, to try to put violence squarely on the feet of a fictional work is dumb considering the person who commits the violence was probably actively looking for a rallying cry, do these works have any legitimacy when it comes to turning that potential violence from mostly internal to external?
If someone is that strongly influenced by a work of fiction to actually go out and murder people, that can hardly be blamed on a fictional character in a fictional story. It's ludicrous.
Like lets say we have some random dude whose deranged, what's to say a movie that glorifies mass violence from a sympathetic villain can turn him from simply committing suicide, or being abusive towards his family, to acting out in the same way as the villain and shooting up a walmart?
Idk. My initial inclination is to feel like they shouldn't have any role but I think it's an interesting topic
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:19 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Idk what you mean by that , but the same 20-25 year olds who praise Bateman , durden are the same guys already praising this because they look up to him the same way they do those two
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:40 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:The issue with censorship is, where do you draw the line? The news? Books? Are we really ready to start burning books again? Are we really ready to shut down every news station that offends anyone? There would literally be no media.
Like lets say we have some random dude whose deranged, what's to say a movie that glorifies mass violence from a sympathetic villain can turn him from simply committing suicide, or being abusive towards his family, to acting out in the same way as the villain and shooting up a walmart?
I think we need to look at other avenues of dealing with the mentally ill IMO. People want to say they glorify the joker in this movie. Is that to be said about every movie with a good villain? Is the villain in Black Panther to be glorified? His parents left him for dead and his family shunned him. No. Is someone who has been in this situation and sees the movie going to start robbing and murdering people? Is Black Panther to blame for having a very good villain? frick no man. That's ridiculous. Those people have problems and THEIR actions are their own fault. PERIOD.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:41 pm to kale
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Idk what you mean by that
I know.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:52 pm to Green Chili Tiger
My post was 100% fact, you chimed in with a weird statement??
I know what an incel is and have met plenty
Seen fight club
American psycho is one of my favorite films
I don’t what you were trying to do with your post? You come off as some idiot who thinks they are witty.
I know what an incel is and have met plenty
Seen fight club
American psycho is one of my favorite films
I don’t what you were trying to do with your post? You come off as some idiot who thinks they are witty.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:56 pm to kale
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but the same 20-25 year olds who praise Bateman , durden are the same guys already praising this because they look up to him the same way they do those two
How many 20-25 year old dudes do you know that praise Patrick Bateman and Tyler Dryden? Either way, that’s an odd thing to know about people
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:01 pm to jg8623
go To any college campus and ask some guy their favorite film. All you will get is
Wolf of Wall Street
Fight club
American psycho
New blade runner
Wolf of Wall Street
Fight club
American psycho
New blade runner
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:02 pm to abellsujr
I think we do absolutely agree big picture.t But
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:26 pm to kale
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go To any college campus and ask some guy their favorite film. All you will get is Wolf of Wall Street Fight club American psycho New blade runner
Except for the college students on this board, evidently.
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:28 pm to Fewer Kilometers
This site is just 40 year olds overcompensating
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:37 pm to WestCoastAg
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the fricked up nature of our current society,
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:12 am to kale
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What do we think about the major criticism of "The Joker" by kale
go To any college campus and ask some guy their favorite film. All you will get is
Wolf of Wall Street
Fight club
American psycho
New blade runner
Really? That's a solid list and good for them.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:18 am to WestCoastAg
Sociopaths will find anything to draw "inspiration" for their anger and bitterness. If we worried about how mentally deranged people will or would take certain things, we would never be able to create anything.
Also having a villain be somewhat relateable makes the villain infinitely more interesting than just someone being evil for the sake of being evil.
Also having a villain be somewhat relateable makes the villain infinitely more interesting than just someone being evil for the sake of being evil.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:20 am to Salmon
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Also having a villain be somewhat relateable
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:14 am to Green Chili Tiger
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I never wanted a Joker origin story.
then don't watch it, don't read the threads, and ignore everything about it. you will literally never be subjected to his origin story if you choose to ignore it.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:17 am to Fewer Kilometers
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I never wanted a remake of The Lion King.
lol exactly. I never wanted the Avatar sequels, and I won't watch them.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:36 am to WestCoastAg
So you’re giving us your interpretation of critics’ interpretation of the movie. Mmm,
I think I’ll see the movie and judge for myself. Until then, I don’t know how to respond fully to your post.
I think I’ll see the movie and judge for myself. Until then, I don’t know how to respond fully to your post.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:47 am to VOR
quote:You're suppose to have a fully formed opinion prior to seeing the film.
I think I’ll see the movie and judge for myself.
You fricking sociopath.
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