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re: Watching TFA for the First Time Since Original Viewing at the Theatre
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:44 pm to OceanMan
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:44 pm to OceanMan
When people talk about doing away with the old EU, everyone always brings up post-RoTJ material. While I think they shouldn't have literally done away with everything (Thrawn Trilogy, Kyle Katarn, etc), I understand the need to start from a blank slate.
What I don't understand is why ALL EU material got hit with the same broad brush. What about the old Republic era content or novels that happened during the films such as Darth Plagueis, Shadows of the Empire, or any of the novels that took place in between the films?
That's a LOT of backstory to flat out throw in the trash. Am I really to believe Disney will expand on all of that in the years to come?
What I don't understand is why ALL EU material got hit with the same broad brush. What about the old Republic era content or novels that happened during the films such as Darth Plagueis, Shadows of the Empire, or any of the novels that took place in between the films?
That's a LOT of backstory to flat out throw in the trash. Am I really to believe Disney will expand on all of that in the years to come?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:57 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Not sure what gender/race has to do with being a good Jedi or actor. Are you saying that creatures such a Yoda can be a Jedi but a woman cannot? If so, that's pretty silly IMO.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:07 pm to BulldogXero
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That's a LOT of backstory to flat out throw in the trash. Am I really to believe Disney will expand on all of that in the years to come?
Money grab
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:14 pm to TigerLunatik
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Not sure what gender/race has to do with being a good Jedi or actor. Are you saying that creatures such a Yoda can be a Jedi but a woman cannot? If so, that's pretty silly IMO.
No that is exactly it. There shouldn't be a deference to race or gender as evidenced by the thousands of alien species. However Disney and JJ force down our throats their SJW agenda with a female and black guy. Finn had zero relevance in the movie. He could have never existed and the movie remains the same. However they just had to have their black character in order to appease a vocal minority I'm light of recent events. Same with Rey they purposefully went back and erased Ben Skywalkers history and replaced it with a female for no reason whatsoever in order to appease another vocal minority.
It's just like the gay issue now you get transgenders DEMANDING rights. Same thing with Star Wars now they have appeased the blacks and women the next logical devolution is a character is homosexual. And the normalization of deviant behavior and attacks on our children begin. DISGUSTING.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:28 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
You overtrolled with that one.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:49 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Finn had zero relevance in the movie. He could have never existed and the movie remains the same.
Bruh, you know they don't blow up the bigass gun thing if it isn't for him knowing the base.
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However they just had to have their black character in order to appease a vocal minority I'm light of recent events. Same with Rey they purposefully went back and erased Ben Skywalkers history and replaced it with a female for no reason whatsoever in order to appease another vocal minority.
Are you really calling women a minority?
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:50 pm to BulldogXero
Because Disney is gonna want to eventually make a Spinoff or Trilogy in those eras or characters. They're making a movie every year until people stop watching so it isn't that crazy they will make a movie with those. They are also releasing their own comics and books that will cover those eras. They made the smart move.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 2:55 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
quote:What? Poe would never escape. Rey would have no idea that BB8 was important. She would have never gotten away from Jakku without him. Han and Chewie never run into Falcon without them leaving Jakku. BB8 never finds its way to Resistance and probably is captured by First Order. They would find and probably kill Luke. They would never know they layout of Starkiller base without him.
Finn had zero relevance in the movie. He could have never existed and the movie remains the same.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:04 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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SJW garbage is disgusting I almost turned it off with the female and black guy playing Manor roles. Way to force progressivism on us Disney.
I agree. Giving women and black people any semblance of equality among the far superior white man marked the beginning of society's downfall.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:08 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Same with Rey they purposefully went back and erased Ben Skywalkers history and replaced it with a female for no reason whatsoever in order to appease another vocal minority.
To appease a vocal minority? Holy shite, your hypocrisy is totally astounding. The only reason you are pissed off is they didn't go with your vocal minority. No one gives a frick about the EU but a few gigantic nerds and not the majority.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:08 pm to apfour21
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Because Disney is gonna want to eventually make a Spinoff or Trilogy in those eras or characters. They're making a movie every year until people stop watching so it isn't that crazy they will make a movie with those. They are also releasing their own comics and books that will cover those eras.
I don't know if I would be so certain that The Old Republic era will be re-visited. It will likely be a long time before Disney goes with anything else aside from content set in and around the time of the original trilogy and post-ROTJ content leading up to and eventually surpassing the events of TFA.
They should just make it canon since it's practically the only Legends content still in production.
The problem with the whole new EU vs old EU debate is how memorable a lot of those stories were to the fans. Yes, there was a lot of garbage, but I guarantee that if the new EU runs as long as the old one, there will be plenty of crap in the new canon as well.
If you're going to throw those stories in the trash, you better damn well have something just as good or better in mind. We already know Chuck Wendig failed miserably with the first post-ROTJ novel set in the new canon. The best novels in the new EU are Tarkin and Dark Disciple. Both could easily fit into the old canon that exists prior to the end of RoTJ. I think it best to salvage what you can and only replace what you have to.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:14 pm to BulldogXero
I bet I know who the OP is voting for in November.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:32 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Virtually no one does, no matter how much the sjw's and their sympathizers in this thread try to favricate bigotry where it doesn't exist.
Many however want the best Star Wars movie possible, where choices are derived from trying to achieve that same goal.
When choices reek of pandering to non-existent social barriers that were torn down half a century ago, and those choices seem to have some impact on the production of a lesser film, people rightfully criticize.
I always see people on this board complaining when movies like Ghostbusters and Annie being remade with female or black leads saying that hollywood should create new movies and roles for them rather than change existing characters, which is understandable. Now we have a movie that created new characters and you people still complain about it.
Did you ever consider that maybe JJ Abrams thought that having a female lead would make for a better story? Or maybe that John Boyega was just the best fit for the character?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:37 pm to Cap Crunch
I find it hilarious that the people calling out SJW's for being triggered by social issues are themselves triggered by much of the same shite. hypocrites.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:53 pm to Cap Crunch
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I always see people on this board complaining when movies like Ghostbusters and Annie being remade with female or black leads saying that hollywood should create new movies and roles for them rather than change existing characters, which is understandable. Now we have a movie that created new characters and you people still complain about it.
Anyone who said Hollywood should create new characters for certain races and genders is just a culpable in this production of shite sandwiches as those who force certain races and genders into roles for social statements.
The gender/race of the characters should be derived organically as part of the artistic work product or indifferent in filling the required roles.
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Did you ever consider that maybe JJ Abrams thought that having a female lead would make for a better story? Or maybe that John Boyega was just the best fit for the character?
On either side of this argument, you're the first person in the thread who has stated these choices came about organically from the pursuit for the best product.
Even the biggest tfa Knights in this thread admit otherwise.
Is that the stance you are taking?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:54 pm to The Egg
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I find it hilarious that the people calling out SJW's for being triggered by social issues are themselves triggered by much of the same shite. hypocrites
Tired ineffectual response is tired and ineffectual.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 5:05 pm to Turbeauxdog
My stance is that I don't give a frick. I thought both Daisy Ridley and John Boyega where great and I enjoyed the hell out of the movie.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 5:11 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:and complaining about the female lead and the black dude aren't tired and ineffectual?
Tired ineffectual response is tired and ineffectual.
in fact, your complaints will warrant more 'SJW' appeasement, so bring on more black storm troopers, please.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 5:12 pm to Cap Crunch
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My stance is that I don't give a frick
If you don't give a frick why was your response filled with fricks?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 5:13 pm to The Egg
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complaining about the female lead and the black dude aren't tired and ineffectual?
Dunno, make an argument to that effect if you believe so.
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