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Watching Maverick again…
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:41 pm
Anyone else get a little teared up with the Iceman scenes? Freakin nostalgia, man
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 5:01 pm
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:46 pm to schatman
I knew James Garner was really Bert’s dad right away.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:48 pm to Sus-Scrofa
quote:Seriously, what a bait and switch thread.
James Garner
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:05 pm to schatman
No. I don’t understand why they had to kill him off. He was already down and out, suffering from cancer in the story. To me, that was poignant enough. The fact they used the real actor suffering from the same disease and actually killed him off seemed pretty shitty just to manipulate a few tears from the audience.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:39 pm to shutterspeed
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Annabelle : What is it with you and Indians anyway? Maverick : Oh, nothing. I try and shoot one a day, if possible, before noon. How 'bout you, Coop? I figure it's their fault for being on our land before we got here.
Underrated fun 90s flick
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:59 pm to extremetigerfanatic
Maverick (90s) is an incredibly underrated movie.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:17 pm to shutterspeed
quote:. I saw it as a wonderful tribute to Val Kilmer. It’s likely the only one he will ever get.
No. I don’t understand why they had to kill him off. He was already down and out, suffering from cancer in the story. To me, that was poignant enough. The fact they used the real actor suffering from the same disease and actually killed him off seemed pretty shitty just to manipulate a few tears from the audience.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:31 pm to alajones
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. I saw it as a wonderful tribute to Val Kilmer. It’s likely the only one he will ever get.
A tribute how?
Really think for a moment about how scummy the filmmakers' did Val, the actor and human being, in that movie. The actor Val Kilmer was not only party responsible for the monster success that was the original Top Gun, but Val Kilmer the human beat cancer, essentially losing his ability to speak in the process, and still somehow battled his way back to acting.
Then, Val does Maverick a huge solid by reprising his classic role in the franchise, only to have the filmmakers use his real life illness as his character's storyline, have him triumphantly struggle to string a few words together to Maverick (for Maverick's benefit) in an incredibly poignant moment, then cut straight to that motherfricker in a casket the very next scene?
What the frick, man.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:56 pm to shutterspeed
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Val does Maverick a huge solid
Hmm. If anyone was doing someone a favor, it was TC and crew finding a way to give a great part to an actor who can't speak and, God bless him, doesn't look so good. You really have to look at it weird to think Kilmer was done wrong. BTW Kilmer's documentary Val was great, should still be on Amazon.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:01 pm to Handsome Pete
If you give me a double feature of top gun 1 and 2 I would go back to the theatre for both
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:07 pm to extremetigerfanatic
One of my favorite movies
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:22 pm to extremetigerfanatic
Damn near every line in Maverick was hilarious in retrospect and an absolutely perfectly cast film.
Gibson was also peak charisma. I've never really seen anyone else with that kind of screen presence besides maybe apex John Wayne or Paul Newman.
quote:
Zane Cooper: Oh, I suppose somebody ought to say something nice about the deceased.
Annabelle: How do you know he was nice? We don't know anything about him. The only thing he's got in his wallet is a bunch of names of whorehouses.
Gibson was also peak charisma. I've never really seen anyone else with that kind of screen presence besides maybe apex John Wayne or Paul Newman.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:37 pm to shutterspeed
I’m pretty sure Val Kilmer had input into what happened to his character. If Val did not like it or approve, he could have just said no.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:10 pm to MasterKnight
What a weird fricking melt to even remotely assume that Val Kilmer was somehow done wrong in TG:M.
They did an amazing job with the character IMO, and made it completely believable related to VK’s real like shortcomings as an actor these days. And the character was treated with absolute dignity and respect.
This take is so stupid I almost don’t believe that guy is serious, and if he is I’m ready to knuckle check at the nearest Sonic.
They did an amazing job with the character IMO, and made it completely believable related to VK’s real like shortcomings as an actor these days. And the character was treated with absolute dignity and respect.
This take is so stupid I almost don’t believe that guy is serious, and if he is I’m ready to knuckle check at the nearest Sonic.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:20 pm to schatman
I like the one with the horses better than the one with the jets.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:40 pm to CocomoLSU
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Maverick (90s) is an incredibly underrated movie.
I 100% thought that this is what the thread was going to be about.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:45 pm to CocomoLSU
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This take is so stupid I almost don’t believe that guy is serious, and if he is I’m ready to knuckle check at the nearest Sonic.
lulz. The filmmakers thought audience members like you were too stupid to understand emotional nuance by simply portraying Val Kilmer as is, so instead they hedged their bets by force-feeding you melodrama by having Val Kilmer die off screen.
Congratulations on being the kind of uncultured retard the filmmakers figured you for.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:15 am to shutterspeed
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lulz. The filmmakers thought audience members like you were too stupid to understand emotional nuance by simply portraying Val Kilmer as is, so instead they hedged their bets by force-feeding you melodrama by having Val Kilmer die off screen. Congratulations on being the kind of uncultured retard the filmmakers figured you for.
Or…. The movie paralleled the original Top Gun like it did numerous other times in the movie. Maverick lost his friend in Goose in TG. Maverick lost his friend in Iceman in TGM.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:46 am to shutterspeed
With Val’s condition, how else was he gonna play it? Act as if it’s wasn’t there? Had to use the condition, otherwise he’d be just a dude that couldn’t speak. Had to be a back story.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:33 am to shutterspeed
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No. I don’t understand why they had to kill him off. He was already down and out, suffering from cancer in the story. To me, that was poignant enough. The fact they used the real actor suffering from the same disease and actually killed him off seemed pretty shitty just to manipulate a few tears from the audience.
Killing him off had plot motivations. It took away the one person who bailed out Maverick time and time again for acting in a way no Naval Officer in the real world would actually get away with. As long as Iceman was still alive and in charge, no matter how many times Cyclone made a threat there was always a chance Ice was going to bail him out.
So, you needed a live Iceman to insert some plausible deniability that a 60 year old fighter pilot with a history of breaking rules could possibly still have his wings, and a dead one to provide that finality that "this is it".
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