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Was Star Wars always planned to be a trilogy/much larger story?
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:02 pm
Star Wars came out in 1977 and everything you read says George Lucas always planned on expanding the story. Especially the Anakin story. Darth Vader wasn't even that big of a character in Star Wars. He was more of a supporting character. Especially not someone you think you need to make a whole prequel trilogy for. Grand Moff Tarkin was the bad guy.
Did George luck out in getting Darth Vader off the Death Star before it blows up and lie about always wanting a bigger story or did he always have a plan. The way George Lucas blows as a writer makes me think he lied and came up with the plan to expand Star Wars after the first movie.
Did George luck out in getting Darth Vader off the Death Star before it blows up and lie about always wanting a bigger story or did he always have a plan. The way George Lucas blows as a writer makes me think he lied and came up with the plan to expand Star Wars after the first movie.
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:12 pm to The Boat
If he had a plan I don’t think he would spend the next 4 decades tinkering with the original trilogy to make them work better with the future movies
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:17 pm to The Boat
The original three films were always considered parts of a larger story. ANH is relatively standalone because Lucas didn't know if they'd be successful enough for him to make the rest.
I think he always had a rough idea of what happened during the prequels, but never committed to making them until he saw how much money they'd make.
I think he always had a rough idea of what happened during the prequels, but never committed to making them until he saw how much money they'd make.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:18 pm to The Boat
Did he have a plan for more than the original movie before he made the first movie? Yes.
Was it a well developed plan that he stuck with after the success of the first film? No. It changed here and there. He had no idea if he would get to make Empire or not when production wrapped up for Star Wars.
Was it a well developed plan that he stuck with after the success of the first film? No. It changed here and there. He had no idea if he would get to make Empire or not when production wrapped up for Star Wars.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:19 pm to BulldogXero
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The original three films were always considered parts of a larger story. ANH is relatively standalone because Lucas didn't know if they'd be successful enough for him to make the rest.
I think he always had a rough idea of what happened during the prequels, but never committed to making them until he saw how much money they'd make.
Fox had little faith the original would succeed. That's why he ended up with merchandising rights or whatever it was, which gave us all the toys.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:19 pm to BulldogXero
Clone wars with the Jedi leading them was a twist instead of being a war against clones.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:21 pm to The Boat
While the stories were not planned, the answer is "Yes"....I specifically remember Lucas saying that he felt this was a 9 installment story and that Star Wars was the beginning of the middle trilogy
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:23 pm to wildtigercat93
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STAR WARS was based on the Akira Kurosawa's 1958 film The Hidden Fortress.
If you have seen STAR WARS, you can name which character from The Hidden Fortress they are based on from the movie.
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STAR WARS was based on the Akira Kurosawa's 1958 film The Hidden Fortress.
If you have seen STAR WARS, you can name which character from The Hidden Fortress they are based on from the movie.
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This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:23 pm to Barrister
He can say whatever he wants after the fact. IMO Star Wars seems like a stand alone film where he lucked out in getting Darth Vader off the Death Star. Then he got approved for another movie and went from there.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:29 pm to Barrister
quote:well Lucas has changed his mind multiple times over decades so i dont take "what he says" as what actually happened.
I specifically remember Lucas saying that he felt
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:29 pm to The Boat
The Boat yes STAR WARS was a stand alone film, after it made so much money, he got the green light to print more.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 2:32 pm to The Boat
This. It wasn’t until after the massive success of Star Wars that he started planning sequels.
I feel like the storylines of Empire and Return may not have been written in full, but were basically developed before Empire was released.
The story progression of the prequels was certainly planned ahead of time rather than made up between movies.
I feel like the storylines of Empire and Return may not have been written in full, but were basically developed before Empire was released.
The story progression of the prequels was certainly planned ahead of time rather than made up between movies.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 3:43 pm to tigger1
Lucas actually self financed Empire Strikes Back. Fox only had a distribution deal.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:24 pm to tigger1
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STAR WARS was based on the Akira Kurosawa's 1958 film The Hidden Fortress.
Pretty sure it’s primarily based on stuff much older than that. It’s the grail quest. The Odyssey. It checks all Joseph Campbell’s boxes.
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:39 pm to alajones
alajones Lucas paid Akira a lot of money, with which Akira used to make the movie Ran.
And no it is not based on early stuff, watch the movie The Hidden Fortress, Lucas change the window dressing to a space movie, changed the two peasants to R2D2 and C3PO, the princess is kept and Mifume's role becomes Obi-wan. It is right down the line Hidden Fortress. Luke was the older woman, Hans the friend of Mifume that joins them as the movie runs.
All Lucas did was change it to space knight and hero tell.
You have to remember when Lucas was pushing to get the movie made, Luke was a girl in the original script.
And no it is not based on early stuff, watch the movie The Hidden Fortress, Lucas change the window dressing to a space movie, changed the two peasants to R2D2 and C3PO, the princess is kept and Mifume's role becomes Obi-wan. It is right down the line Hidden Fortress. Luke was the older woman, Hans the friend of Mifume that joins them as the movie runs.
All Lucas did was change it to space knight and hero tell.
You have to remember when Lucas was pushing to get the movie made, Luke was a girl in the original script.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:46 pm to The Boat
He had a concept, or rather a bunch of different ideas with no set direction. If you read the early scripts for ANH, you realize just how damn awful that movie could have been. He got lucky.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:47 pm to The Boat
quote:You're probably right in that it was made at the time as a stand alone, but with the thought of sequels being a possibility. So I wouldn't say he "lucked out" with Vader so much as he left Vader (and the Emperor) alive with the intention of building on their roles if and when future movies became a reality.
IMO Star Wars seems like a stand alone film where he lucked out in getting Darth Vader off the Death Star.
But at the end of the day, A New Hope ends with the Death Star destroyed but the Galactic Civil War still very much going on. There was always more story left to be told.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 5:12 pm to The Boat
quote:Star Wars, opening word crawl says it's "Episode IV." I thought it was pretty obvious.
IMO Star Wars seems like a stand alone film where he lucked out in getting Darth Vader off the Death Star. Then he got approved for another movie and went from there.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 5:31 pm to blueboy
Not sure if trolling but that was added later.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 5:34 pm to SUB
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Not sure if trolling but that was added later.
Yes, it was added for the Star Wars rerelease prior to the Empire premier
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