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re: Was Saving Private Ryan the last truly great war movie?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:34 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:34 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Fury
Tae Guk Gi
The Way Back
Rescue Dawn
Hacksaw Ridge
Black Hawk Down
SPR is maybe the most overrated war film ever made. The first 45 mins. are incredible. The rest of it is pretty meh.
All of the above are better full length movies.
Tae Guk Gi
The Way Back
Rescue Dawn
Hacksaw Ridge
Black Hawk Down
SPR is maybe the most overrated war film ever made. The first 45 mins. are incredible. The rest of it is pretty meh.
All of the above are better full length movies.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:35 pm
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:37 pm to Lakeboy7
I agree but it is gritty and you can sort of get the feeling of how awful tank combat was
although to the director/writer's credit there was a guy who won a medal of honor for doing something similar late in the war in either france or germany. took on a bunch of enemies with an MG
although to the director/writer's credit there was a guy who won a medal of honor for doing something similar late in the war in either france or germany. took on a bunch of enemies with an MG
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:07 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
No...because SPR came out in 1998 and Letters from Iwo Jima came out in 2006 and it's the superior film.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:11 pm to barbapapa
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although to the director/writer's credit there was a guy who won a medal of honor for doing something similar late in the war in either france or germany. took on a bunch of enemies with an MG
I believe that would be Audie Murphy.
Audie Murphy, who would become a vaguely decent actor, held off a German attack... by manning a .50 cal mounted on a burning tank destroyer. For an hour. Have I mentioned the tank destroyer he was on was on fire?
So. Yes. It is entirely plausible that an SS unit would get tangled up trying to get by just one tank that happened to be sitting in a choke point. In fact that is the story of the Battle of the Bulge. Small American units slowing down the last gasp of the Wehrmacht until superior force could be brought to bear.
Where Fury gets things wrong is, oddly enough, in the tank battle with the big Tiger tank. At the ranges shown even the undergunned Sherman tanks would have drilled a Tiger. At medium or longer ranges is where the Shermans got eaten alive.
And, for all its legendary fighting prowess let us not forget the time an American armored car lit a Tiger tank up like a cheap cigar despite mounting only a 37mm cannon.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:19 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Tom Sizemore
If he hadnt let drugs and bullshite take over his life, no telling what else he could have done.
Hell of an actor imo.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:24 pm to Arksulli
appreciate the write up, that's the guy. what a hoss
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:25 pm to Freauxzen
Is 1917 legit?
Havent seen it yet, was waiting to digitally rent
Havent seen it yet, was waiting to digitally rent
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:41 pm to SEClint
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Is 1917 legit?
It reminded me of Dunkirk in feel but more approachable for most of us. Not sure how to describe it, sort of like an arthouse movie that someone made into a mass market film after the fact.
It's a solid watch. Probably won't do much for WWI buffs, but I enjoyed it.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:48 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I loved Inglorious Basterds
Blackhawk Down was so damn intense.
Blackhawk Down was so damn intense.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:52 pm to Arksulli
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Audie Murphy, who would become a vaguely decent actor, held off a German attack... by manning a .50 cal mounted on a burning tank destroyer. For an hour. Have I mentioned the tank destroyer he was on was on fire?
The USMC didn't want him because he was too little.
Because of his unit of assignment, he ended up all over the ETO, from Sicily (taking part in Truscott's "trot"), to the Anzio landings (which were brutal, particularly for the Brits), to a post-Normandy amphibious assault in Southern France.
Along the way he earned at least one of every award for valor that the Army gave out during that time (2x BSV, 2x SS, 1x DSC, 1x CMH).
In studying the man, in hindsight, it was clear that he managed fear in real time at a supremely inhuman level. He paid for it with PTSD and post-war alcoholism that took its toll. He also wasn't very good at handling money.
In another act of heroism, despite his problems with money, he eschewed appearing in tobacco or alcohol ads because of his influence on young people.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/21/20 at 2:03 pm to barbapapa
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 2:47 pm to Lakeboy7
I know it's not a movie but Band of Brothers was at least on par with SPR to me.. They were able to create an attachment to certain characters without having to dedicate an entire episode to their backstory or personal lives like they did on The Pacific
It never ceases to amaze me how Hollywood feels the need to take a perfectly good movie about the horrors of war, and force some kind of plot-line about a woman into it
It never ceases to amaze me how Hollywood feels the need to take a perfectly good movie about the horrors of war, and force some kind of plot-line about a woman into it
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:31 pm to Freauxzen
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Tae Guk Gi
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SPR is maybe the most overrated war film ever made.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:39 pm to Ace Midnight
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In another act of heroism, despite his problems with money, he eschewed appearing in tobacco or alcohol ads because of his influence on young people.
He was just as brave as he was made out to be. Audie Murphy paid the price for that bravery as well with, as you mentioned, his mental health issues after the war.
But to get back to the point under discussion... the right man, in the right place, can make all the difference.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:45 pm to bluestem75
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The Hurt Locker. Best film on the ME conflicts by far.
In what way was The Hurt Locker accurate?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:45 pm to Lakeboy7
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How big were they? we dont really know.
Kursk was bigger than Jutland. 1200 mile wide front, over 10k tanks. Almost 3 million men. 35k to 45k guns.
I'm not sure we even have anchor from which to form a frame of reference to consider a battle of that scale from a Western perspective.
Nobody did anything amphibious/airborne like we did at Normandy, but Kursk just dwarfs even the sheer enormity of that operation. I mean, the closest analogue in the West was Battle of the Bulge, and that wasn't 1.5m men at its peak and not even 3k tanks, so Kursk was 2x to 3x that scope and over a much bigger area.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:01 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
no it wasn't any where near a great movie, it wasn't even a good movie. it was an ok movie at best and wasn't a waste of time but that's the best I can say about it
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:10 pm to Pettifogger
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Is 1917 legit?
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It reminded me of Dunkirk in feel but more approachable for most of us. Not sure how to describe it, sort of like an arthouse movie that someone made into a mass market film after the fact.
It's a solid watch. Probably won't do much for WWI buffs, but I enjoyed it.
Its like Birdman had a baby with Dunkirk
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:36 pm to Lakeboy7
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Fun movie but lots of Hollywood.
The big climactic scene at the end? Never would have happened.
A battalion of SS infantry and grenadier's would have maneuvered around a disable M4 and left a couple of guys behind with Panzerfaust.
The Tiger scene was garbage, too. The Tiger had huge range, knockdown and armor advantages over the Sherman. The Tiger is in cover, possibly even hull down. Yet, it leaves cover and comes out in the open to close the range and give the M4s the advantage of mobility? As well as increasing the penetration of the Sherman's gun?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:42 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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